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    04-23-2013, 12:52 PM
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Mobile Vets Under Fire

I got it from my local forum, so sharing. I did NOT have time to read all the details, but the way it sounds on first look it can be an issue for those of us using "mobile" vets (I do for my horses, and will try one for my pets fist time this year).

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Mobile Vets Under Fire | Petside

Published April 18, 2013
Mobile veterinarians offering complete care services (treating
injuries, providing hospice care and euthanasia) may soon no longer be
able to provide them to their patients due to the Controlled Substance
Act, legislation that was passed in 1970.

Recently the agency that enforces the law, the Drug Enforcement
Administration (DEA), has informed veterinary organizations that unless
there is a statutory change in the CSA, mobile veterinarians are in
violation of the law and no longer will be able to offer such complete
care to their patients.

Veterinarians practicing in several different states, including
California have already received “cease and desist” letters from the
DEA. Veterinarians in Washington state have also been informed that they
are in violation of the law. While the law has not yet affected
veterinarians’ practices, they are concerned that if it does, it will
mean that veterinarians in mobile practices will no longer be able to
legally administer controlled substance for pain management for small or
large animals. It also will prohibit euthanasia to pets in their homes
or to large animals on farms if the service is performed outside a
mobile vet's registered locations.

Why these reminders and warning are suddenly being issued remains a
mystery. Some speculated that drugs may have been stolen from a mobile
unit or a new DEA investor “feeling their oats” is chomping on the bit
to enforce it.

In response to this query, the American Veterinary Medical Association
shed some light on the issue. “It all started when a DEA office in
California decided to interpret the regulations differently. Then other
states added in. But at the federal level, they were saying there was no
change in how the regulations were being interpreted.”

This is why it’s crucial to get this legislation introduced to avoid
future changes in interpretation that could be detrimental to
veterinarians.
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    04-23-2013, 01:35 PM
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Banned
From other things I have read about this, this is not limited to vets who do not have a physical practice.

The controlled substance act has made it illegal for vets to carry controlled substances with them outside of their practice. So vets cannot come to the barn to euth a horse.

I'd have to imagine they make an amendment to this soon, it has to have been an oversight.

Controlled Substance Act Making it Illegal for Mobile Vets to Carry Euthanasia Solution

April 16, 2013 by Dr Dan · Leave a Comment


I do not usually become involved in the legal process but this one is important. The Controlled Substance Act is making it illegal for mobile veterinarians to carry controlled substances on their trucks, such as euthanasia solution. If your horse is suffering and the worst is that it needs to be euthanized, your vet will not be allowed to carry the drugs on the truck to provide humane euthanasia by injection.
What an oops!! It is unwitting consequence of the Controlled Substance Act that was completely overlooked. The DEA is already starting to enforce the law with veterinarians. SO a Bill # H.R.1528 is being sponsored “to amend the Controlled Substances Act to allow a veterinarian to transport and dispense controlled substances in the usual course of veterinary practice outside of the registered location.” This will legally allow veterinarians to carry controlled substances so that horses and other animals can be humanely euthanized when necessary at the farm.
     
    04-23-2013, 01:38 PM
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Trained
So, my horse can't be put down by my licensed Vet, but you can smoke pot in some states, which stays in your system for two weeks, then spend the next two weeks driving.
I already put a horse down with a gun. Might have to do it again. Sorry for the rest of you non-gun owners.
Genie is out of the bottle and not going back, like welfare, and Obamacare.
     
    04-23-2013, 01:42 PM
  #4
Green Broke
I imagine the restrictions are on lots of other drugs you may need for a horse as well,
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    04-23-2013, 02:57 PM
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Banned
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Originally Posted by Joe4d    
I imagine the restrictions are on lots of other drugs you may need for a horse as well,
It's every med that is a controlled substance.

The AVMA are working very hard to introduce new legislation.

New Infographic Shows Need for Veterinarians to Use Controlled Substances in Various Settings
     
    04-23-2013, 03:03 PM
  #6
Trained
That's just ridiculous. My vet always travels out to see my horse. I don't have the time or money to be hauling to a vet clinic upwards of once a month with my FEI horse to ride around on their parking lot with gravel and do a flexion test - as the clinic does not have an arena (the whole reason he prefers to travel to his FEI and racing clients). As well, with most injuries you don't want to be putting the horse in the trailer as it can further compromise the injury and cause increased damage.

This is about as stupid as requiring only a vet to give any injections, including vaccines and IM Adequan. I don't know if that's still on the table anywhere..
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    04-23-2013, 03:13 PM
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Trained
This certainly needs (and will) be fixed. I talked to our vet, he said that as far as he was concerned everything is BAU, and he didn't know any vet in this area that was worried about the DEA pounding on their door about this.
     
    04-23-2013, 03:13 PM
  #8
Yearling
Wow, what will they think of next. Hooray for all the druggie losers that have caused so much hassle with every day basic needs, such a on site vet care.
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    04-23-2013, 03:46 PM
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Foal
I have family in high ranking DEA positions, both federal in D.C. And on state level in L.A. I have not heard of this but as this is something that will affect me and my horses/animals health and safety (should I need to euth I INSIST on it being done at MY home, where my horses are familiar and not stressed any more than they already would be) I am going to ask them about it.

My guess is that there will be an amendment for Veterinarians, especially those who deal with large animals and are required to make farm calls to care for and treat them in their home environment. I could imagine this would apply to nurses and doctors who do respite and in-home end of life care for dying human patients. They also carry controlled substances.

I will email them quick and come back here when I get her response.
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    04-23-2013, 05:01 PM
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Super Moderator
Did anyone consider that certain substances are controlled are for a reason, like say Ketamine? Many many clinics have been broken into just to steal that one drug for making street drugs.
How about Phenobarbital or other barbiturates?

When one stops to consider how easy it is to lift a bottle of "xyz" off the vet's truck while he or she is stitching together Fluffy...well that makes a little more sense.
I'll blame the criminals, drug makers, and thieves for that, instead of those trying to correct the problems... no matter how ridiculous their attemps may seem to be. I'm pretty they are doing so (or trying to do so) for the above reasons and Not just to make things difficult.
I have my doubts about vets not being able to carry these things anymore, but I suspect it may very well change the way in which they can be carried.
     

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