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    05-26-2008, 11:39 PM
more I think about it...the more I get upset about...rant :p

.....about the BO

A little history:
When I was first searching for a horse, I was going to buy a Gypsy Vanner that she owned. But he turned out to be wayy too much of a horse for me (he reared and bucked with me...and I was a beginner at that time) so I said I didn't want to ride him again, ever.
So then I looked at another one of her horses...but he was wayyy too spooky for me so I passed on him.
Then I fell in love with one mare, named Star, and I had the vet out to do the pre-purcahse (even though the BO promised me she was healthy and sound) but she failed because she had arthritis and was showing early signs of lameness...even though I was a beginner...I knew that was bad hehe so I told the BO that I'd have to think about it, but I didn't think I would buy Star...and if I did, I wouldn't pay the $3600 she was asking...I'd only pay around $1500 because of her arthritis...and she got upset at me saying she wouldn't sell me a horse that wasn't sound and I told her I'm sure she wouldn't do it on purpose.
Well after Star, I kept looking for different horses and I found my boy, Sonny. The BO brought my horse searching up in a lesson and asked if I found any good sounded horses. I told her about Sonny...and she asked how much they were asking. I told her they were asking $5000 and she didn't say anything else.
A week later I bought Sonny, he passed the vet test with flying colors, and I brought him to the stables and boarded him there.
Well you could always tell that she was upset about me buying Sonny, but she didn't tell me it straight out.

Alright enough history....

The part that gets me upset mainly are these things
1) there are two and another horse, Annabell. Well Annie's owner is paying $225 a month for pasture board, her horse has ruined the run-in-shed four times and the owner doesn't help at all around the stables...where as I have to pay $300 and work off $150 of it...and Sonny hasn't ruined anything yet. I, personally, don't think it's correct to have someone pay less for board than another other boarding place around here does that

2) In my boarding contract that we made clearly says Sonny is to be fed 4-5 flakes PER feeding...well she's only been giving Sonny 2 flakes per feeding (if that). I've been giving Sonny more hay when I go up, but not exceeding what I'm paying for)

3) Since I bought Sonny she doesn't seem to correct me if I do something wrong in the lesson...last week I literally did things wrong to see what she'd do (and I only did it when I knew she had her eyes on me). I would keep my heels up...look down...when trotting or canterng I'd move my legs around...for trotting I'd move my hands (as much as I could without bothering Sonny)...I'd keep my legs wayyy too far back...and I'd post on the wrong diagnol...the only thing she corrected me on was the wrong diagnol

4) she always seems to throw the hay either right by Sonny's water buckets (getting hay all in his water) or by his gate (his gate has rocks by it...her husband put the rocks there to stop it from getting it really muddy). I've asked her not to, and she'll stop for maybe 2 weeks..but then continue again

5) she hardly ever cleans out Sonny's water bucket. She's good about keeping it full (she fills it in the morning and at night) but when I cleaned it today it was full of algea and icky hay)...she'll clean it occasionally (maybe once a month) but not as much as it should be.

6) she lets the girls that ride there for lessons practically run the place...the girls are up there past the barn hours and they don't get in trouble...yet I get a lecture if I stay 30 minutes passed 5 pm (closing time for the barn) just waiting for my parents to pick me up (not even riding...just sitting by the gate waiting for my mum).

I REALLY would like to move Sonny elsewhere...but this barn is the only barn that offers pasture board close to me...all the other places keep the horses in a stall...and I'm NOT going to stall Sonny. So I'm kinda out of luck.

I'm hoping I'll get accepted to Morrisville college (once I finish some years in a community college) because Morrisville is about 2.5 hours away and I'd bring Sonny with me...and we'd actually move up there so we'd keep Sonny on our property.

I'm trying to my best to ignore what the BO is doing, but at times it gets unbareable. I can live with the BO talking behind my back or not correcting my riding (with Sonny...not on Devon ) is fairly decent and I've actually thought about stopping riding lessons...but I can't stand having Sonny drink dirty water or not getting fed enough (he's fine on 2 flakes per feeding, but I'd perfer him on 4-5)
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    05-27-2008, 05:15 AM
Honeslty.... Leave the place. Find another place to board.

From the way you just described your BO, and in your other post about the 4 little brats it doesnt sound like its worth it.
    05-27-2008, 07:22 AM
Sounds like she is really holding a grudge Try to spend as much time as you can there, keeping an eye on Sonnys care. Just bide your time until you figure out your college situation and then move him ASAP. Its only a few months away right? Try not to get too involved in the running of the barn except were Sonny is concerned. As long as he is being cared for the rest is unimportant. Its really too bad that all this is interfering with your riding time. I hope you can find a better place for him soon.
I think I would either have a heart to heart with the BO or stop the lessons. No sense in paying for something you aren't getting.
    05-27-2008, 08:56 AM
No going to Morrisville would be maybe 2 years off. I'll be attending a local community college (hopefully) to get the basics done with and then transfer to Morrisville. My mom doesn't want to pay alot for the basics if I can get them for cheap at a CC and still be taught the same thing.

My dad is "supposed" to retire and then we'd sell the house we have and move closer to the college that I want to go to...which would be Morrisville (if I'm accepted)

Well technically this is the care and stuff Sonny is getting:
1) water filled morning and night
2) water cleaned approx every month (unless I tell the BO to clean it....but usually I'll just clean it myself)
3) 2 flakes in the morning, 2 flakes at night
4) pasture raked maybe once every other month (for inbetween my mom and I clean in)
5) private pasture for Sonny

And that's about it. I'd move him right now if I could, but there's no pasture board places near me....the closest one is an hour away (but it's fairly expensive and the price raises $50 a idea why though). Then the cheapest place....charges $125 (yes....$125) a month for pasture board and use of facilities (it's a beautiful place) but that's a good 2 hours away....if I lived closer I'd definitely board there cause the place is great.

But the three stables that are close to me:
1) one (the biggest...meaning most boarders) is REALLY expensive $525 a month and only has partial turn out (maybe for 3 hours a day) and the rest of the time they are in a stall
2) the second one only charges $300 a month, but the horses are in the stall at night (none of their pasture's have run-in-sheds
3) and the third one only offers 3-4 hour turnout and then in a stall...and not sure how much they are asking for

I know Sonny will weave his hooves down if stuck in a stall for a long time....even over night...and I don't want to do that to him.

Question though...if I was to move Sonny on the spur of the moment (let's say a new boarding place opened up and was fairly cheap for what htey offered) do you think, since she is breaking the contract with the food that I could get away with not giving her a month's board in advance?[/list][/list]
    05-27-2008, 09:14 AM
Darn! I thought you would be going soon :( Maybe the heart to heart with your BO would help then. Maybe get your parents involved? I think if you clear the air about the past and future things may get better...Being to hopeful? I would hate to have you move farther away when things could get better where you are if you let the BO know how you feel. There may be some issues you don't know about going on with her personally, that may have taken her mind off of your lessons.
    05-27-2008, 09:24 AM
Originally Posted by Vidaloco
Darn! I thought you would be going soon :( Maybe the heart to heart with your BO would help then. Maybe get your parents involved? I think if you clear the air about the past and future things may get better...Being to hopeful? I would hate to have you move farther away when things could get better where you are if you let the BO know how you feel. There may be some issues you don't know about going on with her personally, that may have taken her mind off of your lessons.
Well my dad doesn't really care...he has only been two the barn twice and the one time he got upset and walked out in the car *rolls eyes*...and my mom doesn't really see all that's going on

Maybe, but I, myself, am horrible with I'd have to have my parents do the talking and me just add in randomly...or else, if I did it, I'd either sound like a complete idiot or say something wrong (wording wise) and get the BO really upset on me.

I know for the lessons, with Sonny...she usually doesn't correct me because my position is better than the other kids in the lesson...but still...she should at least look over and say something some of the time and not "ignore me" in the lesson. I'm actually thinking of having private lessons with her.
I mean she's a great instructor...I took lessons at two other places....the one was a place called Double B...but they'd always put me on a horse that I didn't feel comfortable with...and if I mentioned anything saying I don't want to ride or I want to switch horses...the instructor would get upset..tell me to get off, and she'd ride the horse for the rest of the lesson (and still charge us full price)

Then the next place I went to the lady knew little to nothing about horses. She didn't get the concept that the girth should be tight.....not so loose that when the horse turns a corner that the saddle slips to the side of the horse. Also the horses were really horrid. The one I had to ride (no idea why...but I was told that he was my lesson horse) would bolt....the trainer started to have me canter when I was still a beginner.....on a high strung Quarter Horse. Also she was 30 minutes late for our lesson....but wouldn't give us an extra 30 minutes.

I've learned far more with this instructor that I have any other that's why I have still been continueing to take lessons...she's good about putting the kids on a horse that they can handle...if they feel uncomfortable about something or the horse, she'll switch it so they are fine. She works with the kids confidence levels and then raises it up

I will have a chat with her sometime to see if that makes a difference
    05-27-2008, 09:40 AM
I think it would be worth a shot. I hope things go well and get better.
    05-27-2008, 12:48 PM
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These other stables... they offer stall care, but how much turn out time do these horses get? How many hours a day I mean? Can you call a few and see? Let's do a pro-s and con-s list shall we? Also, do they offer lessons? What is the difference between lesson prices? I personally think you'll be happier somewhere else but let's do a pro's and cons list....
    05-27-2008, 02:28 PM
Most is all day turnout-weather permitting
But still I don't want Sonny in a stall even at night...the only time I'll keep him in a stall is if the vet says he needs stall rest

The BO was alot better today...she gave him three flakes I think (couldn't tell for sure because Sonny likes to take his hay and totally tear it apart so it looks "bigger" hehe) and she just seemed all together more pleasant.

I do notice also that she's alot better when those 4 girls aren't maybe it's the stress of them there that gets her in a bad mood and she takes it out on me...whether she realizes it or not.
I too would be upset if I owned a barn (and was responsible for what happened to those kids) and 2 of them went Stacy Westfal style while another one was literally chasing after the horse with two lunge whips...(yes...that's what happened on Sunday after I left)

I I'm going to just grin and bare it until it's time for me to go to I said...I can live with talking behind my back and such....but I don't want Sonny to be mistreated
    05-27-2008, 02:47 PM
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All day turnout is good.... It's up to you but those other barns will also grain him probably twice daily..... just a thought...

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