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post #11 of 23 Old 11-10-2008, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by My2Geldings View Post
skyhuntress came out to the barn today and saw him, the first time in quite some time. We took both him and his mare out for a walk and they were both angels. Will still try to get either a video or some photos of what he does. She does think it might be him just being a him in which case that would be a lot more comforting for me.
Yeah...because then you can fix it... I had that blood test done on Blue to check his testosterone... it took over a year for him to settle after geldign, but he was like 3 1/2 and had been bred... for color I geuss because I love my blue but I can see his conformation flaws!

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post #12 of 23 Old 11-11-2008, 09:34 AM
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You KNOW I absolutely love your horse, gelded or not he is stunning. I love him...

I guess my advice would be to just test the waters, give him a little time and see if anything new develops. If in that case, I would have him tested. Is it possible to talk to the vet? Maybe they have records of something like that? I'd be pretty ticked off if you paid for something like that, and didn't get everything you paid for.

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Well right now he is doing anything at all with the mares which is the most important thing. I'm going to sit tight and keep a close eye on him and see what he tells me. Right I'm starting to go towards thinking he might just be throwing more hormones than he should. Going to see what happens. He isn't old enough yet to be throw into the gelding field poor guy won't live with his best buddy Calypso anymore.
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She can come live with me. I'd even keep her name. lol

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I will remember that my dear Moxie. I spent some time in the car today just watching them. I've noticed he is very protective of his mare. He herds her around and bites her at the shoulder. Luckily because of her size and her temper she just does the "yes hon, whatever...I'm bigger than you" and she eventually lets him win. Just have to keep an eye on him. Going to ask boarders at the barn to keep an eye on him in case he starts being more bossy or pushy.

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Maybe not the same thing exactly as topic but, the photo will show that having all of the "parts" seems to not matter at all to all Horses..
Case in point, my bud here, Max, is 20 years old, and has a full time female partner (standing watchfully behind or next to him at all times) ...She protects him (does ALL his dirty work), follows him to the ends of the earth, and Lord what else when I am not watching....I would have to figure that she has no Idea what gelded means ....Hmmm
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Loosewolf, that sounds like 2 of mine. Sis is a very small horse barely 14 hh and 28 years old. Her best buddy in the whole world is Flash 15.3 hh and 26 years old. No matter what, they are always together and he is so protective of her. For a while, I had a problem with my Perch stud trying to mount her and I was going to separate her and Flash to a separate pasture by themselves but hated to do that because they are friends with all other 8 horses in that pasture. I tried separating John by himself but he tended to just walk through whatever fence was between him and the others. I was really worried until I saw John try to mount her one day and Flash charged and knocked John to the ground and stomped on him a couple times. That made me feel a lot better. Keep in mind that Flash is navicular and is outweighed by John by almost 900 pounds. Talk about a hero. LOL

Wow, sorry for hijacking the thread. CDT, I think he is probably just being a turd and a youngster. Some horses are just naturally pigheaded and if he is, I pity you. LOL. Just stay firm with him and he will probably outgrow it. If not, you can always have him tested. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Spyder View Post
The easiest and fastest way is to have his testosterone levels tested. Just a quick blood test and that is that.
Worded perfectly.

I friend of mine bought a "gelding" on papers but after about a a year after owning him he started exhibiting stud behaviors (he was 4 when they became very noticable). She had a testosterone test done on him and he had a level of 3.4 which is even on the high scale for a stallion according to the vet. A gelding should have testosterone level next to zero. She ended up having to have a laproscopic surgery done on him to remove the rest of his testicle. Come to find out later the horse was gelded by an amish man and under no sedation at the time. I do believe his breeders (that sold the horse as a gelding) ended up paying for the laproscopic surgery. If they had used an actual vet the vet's liability insurance would have covered the cost. THe horse is now happily a gelding!

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I've seen lots of strange things over the years... and have seen mares mounting mares, geldings mounting mares & geldings... sweet geldings acting like stallions. So it could be he is just acting up a bit. But if you are in doubt, definitely get him checked.

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Here is one possibility . . . Cryptorchidism is the absence of one or both testes from the scrotum. This usually represents failure of the testis to move, or "descend," during fetal development from an abdominal position, through the inguinal canal, into the ipsilateral scrotum. It's the most common birth defect of male genitalia. However, most testes descend by the first year of life (the majority within three months), making the true incidence of cryptorchidism around 1% overall.
About two thirds of cases without other abnormalities are unilateral; 1/3 involve both testes. In 90% of cases an undescended testis can be palpated (felt) in the inguinal canal; in a minority the testis or testes are in the abdomen or nonexistent (truly "hidden").
Undescended testes are associated with reduced fertility, increased risk of testicular germ cell tumors and psychological problems when the boy is grown. Undescended testes are also more susceptible to testicular torsion and infarction and inguinal hernias. To reduce these risks, undescended testes are usually brought into the scrotum in infancy by a surgical procedure called an orchiopexy. - A "gelding" at my barn had it and only had one teste removed, the vet who did the procedure did not remove the other one because it hadn't dropped, and it wasn't there to be easily removed, not that its that difficult to remove. They just have to do a little "looking" to find the "missing" teste. The horse at my farm was acting like a stud and thats when we had a different vet take a look, and thats when we found out what was going on. Mind you this might not be the case in your horse, but its not exactly rare, so I figured I'd just let you know.

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