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post #1 of 43 Old 08-12-2010, 08:27 PM Thread Starter
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My mare mounts other mares

Well after some research I guess I've come to the conclusion that it is pretty normal although I had never heard of it until now. My mare is definitely the leader of the herd, and on top of that is in foal. It's not too common, but she's taken to mounting our other two mares, and not only that but she acts just like a stallion (squeals, snorts, arches her neck, etc.). But if I've read right this is just a combination between her being pregnant, and her being the dominant mare. It was quite weird to see the first time thouhgh.
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I also read on another forum that animals can be homosexual, well I'm sorry, but I call b.s.! I believe this is only a dominance behavior just like in other animals (dogs, cattle, etc.)
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I also read on another forum that animals can be homosexual, well I'm sorry, but I call b.s.! I believe this is only a dominance behavior just like in other animals (dogs, cattle, etc.)
haha i actually think horses can be gay. :P
at my old barn, we had a buckskin stud that mounted and bred (not successfully of course) one of our school geldings in the butthole.
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i've seen those behaviors in a mare many times before, but i can't say i've seen a mare mount another mare...

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Homosexuality in animals is *usually* a dominance thing. However, there have been numerous documented cases in a number of species (I think penguins are most prolific now) of actual "homosexual" partnerships or animals that will refuse to mate with the opposite sex. There are a number of male penguin partners now that will raise an egg together if given one, as a mating pair. They've also documented that they will seek another male mate if theirs dies.

Quite frankly, I think it provides excellent scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Animals are removed from the emotional side of it, and yet still end up with "crossed" genetics that make them seek same sex partnership.

In your mare's case, definitely a dominance thing. I've never seen Shay-las mare Flika mount, but she is definitely the "stud" in the group - her behaviors towards new horses are IDENTICAL to a stallion going through a mating ritual, complete with arched neck, grunting, blowing, teasing, etc.

ROFL, the other day at the ranch we had people complaining because one gelding kept mounting another gelding and trying to "breed" him with his sloppy salute.

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Originally Posted by 888vegas888 View Post
we had a buckskin stud that mounted and bred (not successfully of course) one of our school geldings in the butthole.
I have no idea why, but I found that to be incredibly funny and about spit water on my screen LOL

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I wonder if it isn't caused by the raising in testosterone due to her being pregnant. Pregnant womens 'raging' hormones are usually attributed to extra testosterone. And testosterone in male horses causes studdy behavior.

As far as the homosexual thing, I have never met a homosexual horse...but I bet they are out there.
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I knew a pony mare that was in LOVE with an appy mare, and ONLY that appy mare. I'm pretty sure they can be homosexual.

Your mare could just have too much testosterone, but you won't know for sure until she is no longer pregnant with all those lovely extra hormones. =]

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Living on a dairy farm I learned that cows will mount other cows when they come into heat...not sure if its the same with horses.

But homosexuality in happens. At the barn I board at, they'res two geldings who honestly spoon together. Wish I woulda got a picture...I couldn't believe it and then a non-horsey guy who was there came running to me..."those horses are guys and they're spooning! make them stop! Wait lemme get my video camera first." It was an ackward situation and I had no idea horses spooned but thats exactly what it looked lik. =P

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If she has never done it before, its probably a hormonal dominance thing.

I haven't heard of the animal homosexuality thing before, but MacabreMikolaj, you bring up an interesting point with the penguins.

Watching a horse mount another horse of the same sex for the first time sounds like it would be a bit disturbing. And I don't know how to respond to the whole stallion trying to impregnate a gelding. I kind of want to laugh and puke at the same time.
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I don't believe that horses mount for dominance. If they did it would be much more common behavior even with geldings. People forget that animals don't know about "gay" or "straight." All they know is that they're horny or in need of affection and that boy/girl over there is the only outlet available. Some humans turn to their own gender when there's no other option too (i.e. men in prison). It really shouldn't be surprising.
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