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post #11 of 43 Old 08-13-2010, 05:22 PM
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haha I actually think horses can be gay. :P
At my old barn, we had a buckskin stud that mounted and bred (not successfully of course) one of our school geldings in the butthole.
NOT the everyday picture!
I've seen those behaviors in a mare many times before, but I can't say i've seen a mare mount another mare...
"Is that horse lame? He's walking kinda funny"
"Nah, he's just a little butthurt is all"

Wait! I'll fix it....
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post #12 of 43 Old 08-13-2010, 05:54 PM
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Please get a vet out to examine your mare.

The only mare that I have every seen mount another mare had an ovarian tumor that was producing testosterone; in many ways she acted like a stallion.

The fact that your mare is acting like this while in foal is a *big* concern, and a vet exam is in order.

Homosexuality does exist in the animal kingdom, but since this is brand new behavior, rather than continuing behavior, in this animal the explanation is probably medical.
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post #13 of 43 Old 08-13-2010, 06:18 PM
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I don't believe that horses mount for dominance. If they did it would be much more common behavior even with geldings. People forget that animals don't know about "gay" or "straight." All they know is that they're horny or in need of affection and that boy/girl over there is the only outlet available. Some humans turn to their own gender when there's no other option too (i.e. Men in prison). It really shouldn't be surprising.
With geldings, I would be very confused what else it would indicate then aside from dominance as they shouldn't HAVE any "horny" tendencies. It's also SUPER commonplace in young foals playing, and they obviously don't have any sort of functioning sexual mechanism at a month old.

Most species are well known and documented to use mounting or other apparent sexual behavior as a display of dominance.

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post #14 of 43 Old 08-13-2010, 06:24 PM
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Maura, it's actually fairly common. My mare decided it would be a good idea to mount the boarder's mare... wouldn't be such a big problem if their kid wasn't there to see it. But we went on a research rampage and asked all around and, apparently, it happens a lot.

On a side note, a pair of male penguins will actually STEAL an egg in order to raise it as their own.
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I am still thinking about homosexual penguins from earlier in the post. Somehow that seems about right...

As a Missouri farm kid, I can say that, like prisoners, cattle will take on homosexual behavior if that's all they can get. If other opportunities are there, they will take them.

And, I mean, a dog will hump your leg, right? One has to understand that animals don't place the psychological/emotional/social importance on IT that we do. They will do what they can do.

I always remember an after-church function (and I grew up in a TERRRIBLY conservative church) in which the paster's dog just RAVAGED a couch pillow right in from of everyone.

Just curious: does anyone know if upper primates will respond to "monkey porn"? Has anyone ever done this experiment??? (Not you personally, necessarily. ; )
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Actually, in regard to the gelding behavior. All I have to compare it to is guinea pigs (we used to have a lot of them). Fixing the males did little to them except to affect their potency (and they are castrated)--they remained quite sexual toward the females, and it didn't seem just dominance.
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There are definitely two schools when it comes to animals, much like humans I think. Prisoners and many "bi-sexual" people can fall into the category of just craving sex or affection and not caring where it comes from. This is the dog that humps your leg or the deer trying to actually breed another male deer (or cows as you said).

The other applies to blatant homosexuals and animals like penguins who actually choose a specific gender regardless of individual or sex being involved. I firmly believe there is a chemical/genetic incidence occurring here that for whatever reason is messing with the levels of testosterone and estrogen effectively making the animal/human one gender on the outside and different on the inside.

Not sure about the monkey porn question, but it wouldn't surprise me, we research absolutely everything nowadays.



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Ok, I HAD to look it up. Primates will not only watch porn; they will PAY for it! Male monkeys will pay for photos and films of "chimps gone wild" with their food supply. Would we have expected anything else???
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Actually, in regard to the gelding behavior. All I have to compare it to is guinea pigs (we used to have a lot of them). Fixing the males did little to them except to affect their potency (and they are castrated)--they remained quite sexual toward the females, and it didn't seem just dominance.
Guinea pigs shouldn't technically be different then any other animal. Think of dogs, cats, horses, for example and castrating effectively takes away virtually any sexual urge. It's extremely rare I see ANY castrated animal making sexual advances.

So it may not be dominance, but I think it has even less to do with sexual urges.

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Well no considering /this is getting inappropriate!/ upper primates (and dolphins) are the only other animals that will have sex for pleasur/masturbate
And jeeze louise, my young mind should not know these things
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