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post #1 of 24 Old 11-08-2012, 11:27 AM Thread Starter
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My mom's friend wants to buy her 12 year old daughter a foal with no horse experiance

Long story short My mom's friend wants to buy her 12 year old daughter a foal. I tried to tell her that foals take alot of work and are not for someone who has no horse experiance. However she says that if Jojo (her daugter) spends time with the foal then they will gain a bond and the foal will not harm her. She thinks her kid can train the foal because my parents bought me a yearling and I trained her when I was 12. I lucked out due to books, pure luck, and help from my farrier. I was hoping you could give me advice or articles to give to her to change her mind into getting her daughter riding lessons and then buy her a trained kid safe horse. Jojo gets nervous working around my 5 year old Morgan mare. Jojo "thinks" she can train a foal and wants one because they are cute..I know from watching her with my horse that this will not turn out good for the foal (if they get one) or her. Oh and she also has a 5 year girl who will be around the future horse. No one in there family knows anything about horses. They also seem to want an Arabien..I know there are some great Arabiens out there, but are high-strung, edgy, Arabiens good for beginners? Any advice would be appreciated.
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post #2 of 24 Old 11-08-2012, 11:31 AM
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Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me, and everyone else I would imagine
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post #3 of 24 Old 11-08-2012, 11:32 AM
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Yikes. Well you told her the risks, I'd say take a step back and let them do what they want (you can't stop them..) But if they ask you for help say "no, I warned you. You made your bed, you lie in it".
Some people don't like to listen to advice, and will only understand they've made a mistake when the damage is done. It won't be very fair on the horse, but there's not really anything else you can do. You could offer a second warning, but it looks like they're not interested.

To ride or not to ride? ... What a stupid question!!
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Try suggesting that they go to a stable and let them get familiar with horses first, even take a few lessons to see how that works out. Let them talk to some trainers who they may listen to rather then you. Hopefully they will come to their senses.

Good luck.
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post #5 of 24 Old 11-08-2012, 11:45 AM
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When the foal kicks her daughter in the head causing a TBI, or drags her down the road and kills her, it'll be the horse and child who pay for the adult human's stupidity and arrogance.

I'd wash my hands of the whole situation.

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I agree. You warned them in detail of the risks involved. If she wants to risk her child's well being, that's on her. I wouldnt get involoved what so ever. That can just come back on you if something were to happen.

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There is only one way to gain experience with horses and that is to handle them. I bought my daughters 9 and 11, foals for their first horses and both the horses and the girls were just fine. Yes there was alot of trail and error, but it worked out just fine. With the amount of handling and playing with the foals they were bomb proof and very easy to saddle train when the time came. I put the first 5 rides on them and they did the rest.
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I was hoping you could give me advice or articles to give to her to change her mind into getting her daughter riding lessons and then buy her a trained kid safe horse.
Just point her to certain "training issues" threads on horse forums (any horse forum I know of has them).
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There is only one way to gain experience with horses and that is to handle them. I bought my daughters 9 and 11, foals for their first horses and both the horses and the girls were just fine. Yes there was alot of trail and error, but it worked out just fine. With the amount of handling and playing with the foals they were bomb proof and very easy to saddle train when the time came. I put the first 5 rides on them and they did the rest.
Didn't YOU have prior horse experience? Because this family has NONE. Different scenario entirely.

Besides, a child doesn't need to 'grow up' with a foal. Safer methods of learning to handle and ride horses are always better than throwing an inexperienced child out with a foal.

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well I didn't get MY first foal until age 16 and even then was VERY careful to choose the right foal for my personality... I needed a bold, cheeky, dominant type baby because I can be a bit overbearing and a timid foal would have been entirely wrong for me at that time.

Now, age 18, I've since sold her [she's too small - will be lucky to make 14.2, and I'm a bit tall on my 15.1 gelding], and taken on a 2yo, very flighty TB. Maybe it wasn't such a great idea going straight from first ever young horse to a 2yo red TB filly with issues, but so far it's working out ok other than her incessant health issues... one thing after another! I think I learned enough about training methods from my first youngster that I don't have to figure out how to handle a flighty horse AND how to train at the same time, and there's a certain degree of instinctivity to it because I've basically been around horses my whole life.

As an outsider looking in on a number of my friends, there are friends who I would never sell ANY horse to let alone a foal, there are friends who I'd give a horse to in a heartbeat [no charge, any age] because I know they'll train, handle and care for it properly, and there are friends who I'm considering BEGGING to help me out with my current youngster. I'm seriously thinking I might talk to my boss about a little hurdle I'm facing, at the very least.




Guess what I'm trying to say is people will do what they will do, if you don't agree don't enable/help them... but do encourage education and most importantly that they GET HELP. Foals are very cute, and one of these days I will breed one [or a few?] of my own, definitely one to keep and possibly a few to sell... but I have my mother with her 25+ years of experience, my boss, 3 very experienced horsey friends... the list goes on. I have a VERY good support network and this is the ONLY reason I have young horses at all. If I didn't have my support network I would stick with the older schoolmasters.
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