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post #21 of 89 Old 05-11-2012, 06:32 AM
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Nice looking guy, decent confo. I think he's a good prospect.

Congrats and have fun working with him.

And I do think the best plan is to geld him. Nice as he is, that doesn't mean breeding quality, and since you have no idea of his breeding, you have no idea what undesirable traits are lurking in his pedigree. Unpapered doesn't bother me as much as no idea what the underlying genetic makeup is.
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post #22 of 89 Old 05-11-2012, 08:20 AM
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since you have no idea of his breeding, you have no idea what undesirable traits are lurking in his pedigree. Unpapered doesn't bother me as much as no idea what the underlying genetic makeup is.
This is my only objection to breeding unpapered horses. If he is going to be bred will you have him tested for all the genetic diseases beforehand?
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post #23 of 89 Old 05-11-2012, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Nuala View Post
He is probably going to end up gelded purely based on the fact that he is grade and i have know knowledge of his linage other then some QH. He is obviously a stud when the mares are around but as soon as a human walks up he is on his best behavior. You honestly wouldnt know he is a stud with looking he is so laid back. He is already sort of adopted a yearling gelding who is penned up next to him and has never been aggressive towards any of the other horses. So Im not really worried about gelding him for any behavioral reasons.

As for trimming that was the first day I got him and as far as I can tell he hadnt even been haltered before that. He does already pick up his front feet for me but he has some issues with his back. He doesnt lean and he isnt mean about it but he does try to strike out a little with his back feet. He wouldnt even take food from my hands when I got him but now he will take anything if he thinks it will taste good!

I am hoping he will be a rodeo or ranch horse mostly for poles and since I work as a pickup rider sometimes. Although I'm pretty sure he is going to be a trail horse. I am hoping that he gets taller. I would like to see him finish around 15h if I am going to keep him. We are guessing he is about a year and a half or so but he wont let us look at his teeth very long as he is still pretty head shy, especially with his mouth. He already looks 10 times better and he is already starting to relax and trust people more hopefully I will be able to go out there soon and get some work on him.

As soon as he gets feeling better from a good diet he will change.
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post #24 of 89 Old 05-11-2012, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Nuala View Post
as for finding another one we have some run through the sales every month like him some not as nice but some that are just as nice or nicer however the papered ones usually go for around 1200.

I was very lucky to get him I kicked myself and my friend for letting lift my hand for him but now that I have him I would hate myself if i gave him up. He is a dream sweet and smart. I might have to breed him a couple times before I geld him just because he is so laid back and handsome.
Yes, he was very lucky & his offsring will have to be very lucky too.
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post #25 of 89 Old 05-11-2012, 05:26 PM
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He's nice. No glaring faults. But he was in the auction because someone thought they'd 'just breed'. Don't add another to an auction. You saved one from becoming someone's dinner and kudos to you, but if you want another - save another. Remember, that after he is bred, he might not be quite the gentleman he is now.

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I totally agree with the just breeding to make another nice horse. I have a friend with a mustang mare that I would like to get a good trail/work horse out of but that would be for keeps. I am not trying to breed to sell him as I know with a grade horse that is close to a useless idea but you have to remember most great breeds were made of grade horses or crossbred non-papered horses. Take the Morgan horse for example.

But no as far as I can tell I will be gelding him as soon as the vet gets back.
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post #27 of 89 Old 05-11-2012, 09:50 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by Ripper View Post

As soon as he gets feeling better from a good diet he will change.
I have had him since the 22 of April. He has been on a diet of hay twice a day, horse feed, alfalfa packs and oils once a day. He is still the sweetest horse ever. I have worked with both types of studs and he is not the type to be the stereotyped aggressive study animal most people believe all studs to be. I have worked with more geldings that act "study" then most of the studs I have worked with. Maybe I am just lucky but I have only twice ever had a really bad experience with studs, even the simply bad ones it was no different then any other horse would behave if they were sour or ruined.

As for him getting aggressive once he's been breed to a mare. He is never aggressive with mares. He will sit there face to face and act like the are a gelding and even after they present he has never gotten aggressive enough to hurt them or himself trying to get through the gate.

Yes I do know all of this can change and yes I am prepared for if it does but I dont want to punish him for something he might do while he hasnt shown any sign of wanting to as it is (if that all makes sense). Studs are not bad horses and they are usually just as smart and respectful as any other horse they just get a bad wrap because of the ones that are bad. IMHO.

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He is a handsome little guy who looks like he'll make a good horse with the right training and feeding up. It took my gelding about 6 months of good food before he started showing me any sass... or is that just the training and fitness he's been receiving in the meanwhile? Too tough to tell if it's food, genetics, or learned behavior sometimes! Regardless of the status of his testicles, which seems to be very interesting to many people, I am am glad he's got a good home with you and hope you post pictures as he fills out and grows up! I suspect he's going to be a good looking guy.
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It is the oddest thing. His weight has been fluctuating like a wonder ball in a hurricane. He had a runny nose and had dropped weight one day then someone turned him out in the front pasture and he gained it all back. I was hoping to get a little weight on him before worming him again but I dont think Im going to be able to. I am hoping to go out in the next couple of days to check on him again.

Here are some photos of the last time I worked with him before he went out to the pasture. Poor baby boy looks so sick and skinny!

Like I said he was back up again the last time I saw him but still worries me.

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post #30 of 89 Old 05-15-2012, 07:30 PM
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Is he quarantined from other horses right now? He should be separated from contact from every other horse for 2 weeks. That includes keeping 20 feet distance away from them too...Who knows what type of diseases he had before the sale, or contracted at the sale.

If he has a runny nose, I'd be worried...Red flag.
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