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        12-30-2012, 04:15 PM
    I would never in a million years critique or help someone that rides english! Sorry!! I have never sat in an english, I have never owned an english saddle. I can barely tell you anything about english other than their saddles are missing my "oh sh!t" handle. Hehe..No I do not think somebody, like myself, that is prodominately western should critique an english rider.
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        12-30-2012, 04:45 PM
    Just because someone can pop over a few things in a Western saddle doesn't make them a jumper, nor able to teach someone the finer points of jumping.

    That would be like me saying because I can ride in a Western saddle on a professionally trained WP horse, that obviously makes me a WP person. Um, no.

    Why all the angst about it? If you ride primarily Western disciplines, great! If you ride primarily English disciplines, great! One is no better than the other, but don't claim expertise in something just because some time, somewhere, you popped over a jump.
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        12-30-2012, 04:53 PM
    Mind. Blown.
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        12-30-2012, 05:02 PM
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    What I know about western riding could be written on a postage stamp.

    I am an experienced horse woman and a lot I have learned has been through observation.
    I would not expect to be able to teach someone the finer points of western riding but, could point out faults in both the horse and the rider.

    Anyone can help another rider just by knowing the basics, a child can point out whether a rider has their heels down or another fault but I would not expect to take instruction from them.
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        12-30-2012, 05:14 PM
    I do not feel comfortable giving any English rider advice though. I would rather keep my thoughts to myself than to assume I know what I am talking about because English is like a foreign language to me.
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        12-30-2012, 05:19 PM
    I do hunter/jumpers and have been doing so for 5 or 6 years. I've recently ridden some western w/t/c, and done some easier patterns, and teach new children basic w/t work in the western discipline. But there is no way I would be able to correctly teach these children patterns, trail rides, etc. I know BASICS, and with hunter/jumpers being my main discipline, I would have no right to teach anyone advanced western. You just don't do that.
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        12-30-2012, 06:30 PM
    I've barrel raced my whole life, and I wanted to ride English at one point. I took lessons from someone who did show jumping, and dressage. Sure I could ride decently in an English saddle before that and get into a decent two point over jumps. But she taught me well and refined everything, I still use stuff I learned in my lessons in my barrel saddle. So yes I can ride and jump decently in an English saddle, but I am not going to give anyone advice on how to ride English. Not my specialty, I know a lot about barrel racing and training for it so I believe I will stick in my place.
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        12-30-2012, 07:48 PM
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    Many years ago I was able to ride some top western horses that were next door to where I was working.
    The people caring for these horses were idiots and hadn't a clue about caring for these stallions and mares.
    I had never ridden western and on getting the horse out the stable needed the 'girth' tightening. As it was one that leather passed through a ring and was then knotted I asked how to do it correctly. This caused them to try and put me down.
    The horse was an Arab, once the girth was tightened he stood vertical and was not going to let me get on. I ran leading him at a trot and vaulted on.
    I learned that a western saddle is easier to sit in than an English!

    There really is not a great deal of difference in riding English and western. The aids are slightly different but basically the horse moves the same way!

    I have ridden up in the Rockies bringing cattle down, the mare I was riding was a good cow horse and I had little trouble in controlling her though, to be honest she knew so much more than me that I sat and let her do the work and glowed in the fact that she made me look good!
        12-30-2012, 07:55 PM
    If we're not supposed to differ, are we just supposed to agree?
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        12-31-2012, 03:33 PM
    Originally Posted by WSArabians    
    If we're not supposed to differ, are we just supposed to agree?
    Yes, yes we are, and here is your daily rainbow, and some butterflies, now don't you feel better,

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