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post #1 of 58 Old 03-13-2012, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
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need advice for a bad situation

I am so stuck here I don't know what to do anymore. My main horse, vini, is a lease horse. I signed with his owner for a 6 month contract where I board him and pay expenses. I don't mind doing this at all, I think it was a great learning experience. I have had him in my pasture since the beginning if January, and through spending hours at the barn daily, have gotten to know him very well.
Well yesterday he decided to charge my goat for no reason. And after I chased him away, he tried to charge me. He is fine, no medical problems, probly because he was just let out of his stall and had recently eaten oats. I managed to catch him and out him back in his stall.
Anyways, I called his owner and she came out to see if she could make some sense of this.she comes out 2 hours later with her cousin and immediately went to work punishing vini. I have never felt so bad in my life! They wrapped the chain of the lead line around his nose and continuously pulled down very hard ( this I sometimes do with less force if he is being rude). Then they brought him out into the pasture and used the end of the lead line to whip him. He was so scared. They did this to him for at least 5 minutes.
It was not my intention at all for them to hurt him. I feel that a bad action should be addressed immediately, not so long after. My dilemma is that I cannot make her stop hurting vini, he is still her horse. I offered to buy him from her but she refused. I don't know what to do! Every other time she has came out she has been very rough on him. Advice anyone?
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post #2 of 58 Old 03-13-2012, 09:04 PM
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Personally, I would stop reporting bad behavior to her and just work on correcting it myself, with a trainer if need be.
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post #3 of 58 Old 03-13-2012, 09:18 PM
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Unfortunately, there isn't much you can do here. If she causes physical injuries that can be photographed you would have more leverage. I had a neighbor that treated all animals poorly, and she wondered why her horses didn't like her... She was paid to look after and feed our horses once while my family was on a short vacation. Never again, her younger sister (who was very nice with animals but was only 10 years old then) reported her sister's inappropriate behavior with my family's horses. She was mad that her sister had told us about kicking the very pregnant belly of my sister's mare (luckily mom and baby turned out just fine). There isn't a thing to keep these people from owning horses or hitting them. Sorry that you have to deal with the owner.

I wonder if you would be able to talk her into selling at the end of the lease. Something like, I will buy him or not renew the lease. So then she has to choose if she wants money in her pocket or spend money to care for him herself. Just a thought.
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post #4 of 58 Old 03-13-2012, 09:23 PM
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What in the world is the point of coming out 2 hours later and punishing the horse? The horse has no idea what is going on. There is a very little time-frame to react to what a horse does, and 2 hours isn't included in that.

I'd never report anything bad to her again. The lady obviously doesn't know what the heck she is doing with horses and shouldn't be around them.

Try buying the horse when the lease is up, or send him back and wipe your hands clean of them. (horse and owner)
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post #5 of 58 Old 03-13-2012, 09:25 PM
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What did you do when he charged at you? The owner punishing the horse well after the fact is pointless & very confusing. Was he acting up when she proceeded to correct him with the chain & smack him with the lead line?
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post #6 of 58 Old 03-13-2012, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
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I am going to try again in June to buy him from her. When he charged me in the pasture my other horse actually ran up and protected me. I immediately went to the barn and grabbed a lead line with a chain and brought him to his stall. I gave him a few firm pulls with the chain, then made him stand with his head down for about 5 minutes. It may sound silly but making him stand like that actually works well for vini.
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post #7 of 58 Old 03-13-2012, 09:32 PM Thread Starter
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But when the owner came out he instantly knew he was in trouble. He didn't have time to react before she was in the stall screaming and smacking him. He did nothing wrong when she approached him
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post #8 of 58 Old 03-13-2012, 09:33 PM
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You need some help with a trainer or experienced horseperson.
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post #9 of 58 Old 03-13-2012, 09:33 PM
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But when the owner came out he instantly knew he was in trouble. He didn't have time to react before she was in the stall screaming and smacking him. He did nothing wrong when she approached him
Horses don't "know" that they are in trouble. He is terrified of that lady. Plain and simple, he's associated her...with pain.

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post #10 of 58 Old 03-13-2012, 09:46 PM
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Please tell me this lady only owns one horse?

You just have to see your distance...you don't have to like it.
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