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        03-13-2012, 09:48 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    Nope Puck. She actually got another horse after I started to lease Vini from her.
    Also, I have contacted a local trainer and she is coming out on Friday.
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        03-13-2012, 09:56 PM
      #12
    Started
    Ugh sometimes I think people who abuse their pets ought to have what they do the pets done to them! I know it seems harsh but...is it really? Just. Show them what they're doing maybe they'll see why it's wrong
         
        03-13-2012, 10:12 PM
      #13
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by bnayc    
    I am going to try again in June to buy him from her. When he charged me in the pasture my other horse actually ran up and protected me. I immediately went to the barn and grabbed a lead line with a chain and brought him to his stall. I gave him a few firm pulls with the chain, then made him stand with his head down for about 5 minutes. It may sound silly but making him stand like that actually works well for vini.
    You're not much better than she is!

    He charged you in the pasture so you shoved him into a stall, yanked him around with a stud chain and then forced him to stand with his head yanked down. Horses live in the "here and now". He has NO CLUE that you yanked him around and tortured him because he charged you, he'd forgotten that long before you made it to the barn to get his lead line.

    If a horse is acting inappropriately, you have to fix it then.... once they have stopped the behavior, you can't punish them for it because they have zero clue why you are punishing them. My horse charged my trainer, she picked up the nearest available object which happened to be a big ol heavy cone and beaned him square in the butt. He never charged her or anyone else again! He was mid-charge when he got beaned so he got the idea... oh... she doesn't like it very much when I am charging and I get an owie!
         
        03-14-2012, 06:06 AM
      #14
    Weanling
    Dont you dare say I am like her! Standing with his head down isn't beating him. I wasn't "yanking" him around. When I caught him in the pasture he was still trying to get my goat so that's why I pulled the chain a few times. He wouldn't stop going crazy so what else was I to do? Let him keep running the pasture to possibly hurt someone or something else?
    I thought this was a forum where people could discuss things and not be judged but I guess not if you think I'm abusing him.
         
        03-14-2012, 08:30 AM
      #15
    Yearling
    Yes, but Delfina's point is that the horse has no idea that the reason he was standing in a stall with his head down is because he charged you. I wouldn't call it "abuse" but it's a mistake lots of people make, thinking horses are like children and can make fairly abstract connections between something unpleasant now and something they had done ten minutes ago. They can't.
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        03-14-2012, 11:06 AM
      #16
    Weanling
    I did what the owner had showed me to do besides beating him. I put him in the stall and made him stand with his head down because he was going nuts! I did immediatly address his behavior in the pasture. But after that he was still running like a mad man. I didn't put him in his stall as punishment, it was to let him relax. I didn't want him to hurt the other animals or himself. I don't appreciate someone saying I am abusing my animals. This isn't even what my question was about and this has gone too far. Goodbye horse forum.
         
        03-14-2012, 11:15 AM
      #17
    Trained
    How much have you been around horses? Could it be that you are looking at teh situation with an inexperienced eye and she was actually giving him a tune up because of some bad behaviour tht you had been allowing? An experienced person might be able to feel the resistance or see a look in the eye of the horse that needs to change before they get charged where a novice may not see it. I don't think there is any reason ever to put a chain over a horses nose. That's lazy horsemanship. I handle a lot of different horses and never use anything but a rope halter. If I need something more then I get a stick and do some training.
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        03-14-2012, 11:16 AM
      #18
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by bnayc    
    I did what the owner had showed me to do besides beating him. I put him in the stall and made him stand with his head down because he was going nuts! I did immediatly address his behavior in the pasture. But after that he was still running like a mad man. I didn't put him in his stall as punishment, it was to let him relax. I didn't want him to hurt the other animals or himself. I don't appreciate someone saying I am abusing my animals. This isn't even what my question was about and this has gone too far. Goodbye horse forum.
    You came here because you needed advice. You got it. We can't help that you don't LIKE it. What you did was just as inappropriate as her. The horse had no idea what you were "punishing" him for at all. The only thing they remember is what happens IMMEDIATELY. Not after you wanly to the barn, get the lead, put the chain on him, etc. Glad you have a trainer coming.
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        03-14-2012, 11:55 AM
      #19
    Weanling
    Does nobody read ? I have said 3 different times now that I immediatly took care of him in the pasture! I didnt go back to the barn until he continued to act out! Seriously why does everybody revolve around one little instance? I am not inexperienced. I have talked to multiple trainers and none of them disagree with what I do. I don't see how using a stick is humane at all!
         
        03-14-2012, 12:15 PM
      #20
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by bnayc    
    I don't see how using a stick is humane at all!
    I would depend on how you use a stick. There is only one way you can use a chian either under the jaw or over the nose and that's to jerk on it to cause the horse pain. It doesn't teach them much except to fear the pain from the chain. NO chain= no fear.
         

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