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post #1 of 20 Old 07-20-2013, 03:55 AM Thread Starter
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Ok, so as many are aware I own a beautiful quarter horse Smarty. She's beautiful but very spooky when I ride her so I'm buying a more secure saddle in the next week or two and going to start riding her in my riding vest and riding her threw it.
Ok, so next, I got a new job, which means more hours, more money and I actually finish 2,3 or 4 pm at the latest in the afternoon which means I have time to go out to the horse.
Ok, so heres my problem. My old riding instructor got in contact with me telling me that the owner of a horse named Blacki, was trying to find my number to let me know he is for sale.
Before I had my spine operation Blacki and I were two peas in a pod. I never felt so safe on any horse, we used to go cantering around like hoons, having fun, jumping though he couldn't jump he kinda just stood on the jumps and broke them! He was so amazing I'd offered his owner a million times to buy him off her but she didnt want to part with him though she leased him to the riding club where I rode because she had a family and didn't have time to ride him. And after my operation I wasn't supposed to ride for 9 months, but at about 6 months my instructor let me on Blacki and he looked after me, didn't put a foot wrong. Then the club changed owners and blacki was sent home and I left the club. I got in contact with her and said if you ever do consider selling him please ring me and a year later she has.
Now I am in the position where I could have another horse.
I am in the position to be able to feed both horses, I have all the gear except a bridle.
The owner has offered me a free lease where he stays at mine and we see how it goes and if its just like old times and I feel like its a good move then I have the option to buy him.
Now she wants 1000 for him. He's turning 20 next year, is a standardbred, about 15'3 If I remember correctly, I don't know when he was ridden last but he was a very calm horse so im thinking if I did do a lease I'd lunge him for a week saddles, and gradually get to where I start riding him in the round yard.
Now because of work I feel two horses will be ok, I live 5 minutes from them. But I need more opinions to be honest, im weighing the pros and cons. I was thinking go with the trial and see how it goes for a month and two but what do you guys think? Do you also think 1000 for a 19 year old stb is too much, I know he wont have too many more years but I am able to cope with his aging. I've got so many thoughts, pros and cons, please give your opinions.

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post #2 of 20 Old 07-20-2013, 04:21 AM Thread Starter
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here are two photos of him back in the day...
Maybe 2 years ago?


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post #3 of 20 Old 07-20-2013, 08:55 AM
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Yes, he's probably worth it if he is as well trained as you say. IMO, too many people pass on mature, seasoned horses because they are "too old". My current herd consists of a 5 yo, 12 yo, 15 yo, 18 yo, and 28 yo. My 28 yo mare is completely sound and ridden on a fairly regular basis. I don't use her when we are going on longer rides over rough, steep terrain, but she has NO problems w/t/c for an hour or two. I would prob choose Blacki over a mare I had to get a "more secure" saddle for and ride with a safety vest.....but I'm older and long past my days of wanting to ride the naughty ones, lol.
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post #4 of 20 Old 07-20-2013, 09:03 AM
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I agree with Bellasmom. I would do the lease to see if he is or has the potential to being the horse you remember. If so then $1000 is cheap for the amount of safety and peace of mind that comes from a btdt mount who will probably have another 10-15 years of riding in him if cared for properly. GO FOR IT! He was a good looking fella in those pics. I'm sure he is/will look that good again.

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post #5 of 20 Old 07-20-2013, 10:49 AM
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Ok, so as many are aware I own a beautiful quarter horse Smarty. She's beautiful but very spooky when I ride her so I'm buying a more secure saddle in the next week or two and going to start riding her in my riding vest and riding her threw it.
Ok, so next, I got a new job, which means more hours, more money and I actually finish 2,3 or 4 pm at the latest in the afternoon which means I have time to go out to the horse.
Ok, so heres my problem. My old riding instructor got in contact with me telling me that the owner of a horse named Blacki, was trying to find my number to let me know he is for sale.
Before I had my spine operation Blacki and I were two peas in a pod. I never felt so safe on any horse, we used to go cantering around like hoons, having fun, jumping though he couldn't jump he kinda just stood on the jumps and broke them! He was so amazing I'd offered his owner a million times to buy him off her but she didnt want to part with him though she leased him to the riding club where I rode because she had a family and didn't have time to ride him. And after my operation I wasn't supposed to ride for 9 months, but at about 6 months my instructor let me on Blacki and he looked after me, didn't put a foot wrong. Then the club changed owners and blacki was sent home and I left the club. I got in contact with her and said if you ever do consider selling him please ring me and a year later she has.
Now I am in the position where I could have another horse.
I am in the position to be able to feed both horses, I have all the gear except a bridle.
The owner has offered me a free lease where he stays at mine and we see how it goes and if its just like old times and I feel like its a good move then I have the option to buy him.
Now she wants 1000 for him. He's turning 20 next year, is a standardbred, about 15'3 If I remember correctly, I don't know when he was ridden last but he was a very calm horse so im thinking if I did do a lease I'd lunge him for a week saddles, and gradually get to where I start riding him in the round yard.
Now because of work I feel two horses will be ok, I live 5 minutes from them. But I need more opinions to be honest, im weighing the pros and cons. I was thinking go with the trial and see how it goes for a month and two but what do you guys think? Do you also think 1000 for a 19 year old stb is too much, I know he wont have too many more years but I am able to cope with his aging. I've got so many thoughts, pros and cons, please give your opinions.
I don't think $1,000 is to much for a horse is going to protect you. Horses that are that good are priceless.

What I consider is whether or not you would have the income to support him if in a few months he starts requiring special feed, or shoeing, or chiro or any other special care an older horse in a lot of situations might require. It sounds to me like this older horse is better for you than the one you currently own! I would look into the possibility of buying him and seeing if selling the other is maybe a better option for you?

I had some major orthopedic surgery on my pelvis done so I fully understand the importance of a safe horse.
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post #6 of 20 Old 07-20-2013, 12:22 PM
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Our oldest mare just turned 18 this year. Granted that she's a QH, she's an awesome horse. If we didn't own her, I could easily see paying more than $1000 for her.

As they get older, more medical issues can arise. But they can be rode into their late 20's if all goes well too.
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post #7 of 20 Old 07-20-2013, 01:24 PM
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If you have the money to care for an aging horse well, there is not reason to think that he wouldn't be around for another 8-10 years. I worked with a horse that was well past 30 now he was a pony right around 14 hand or less but he worked everyday taking kids on trail rides all day everyday in the summer and most every weekend in the winter. He had one bad winter and lasted about a year after that.

Your horse given good care and good genetics he could see 30 now being we don't know the genetic side he could also not make 25 but I think that, that is not likely.

As for the money side, whats money anyway, you know the horse and it really sounds like you love the horse. So on the money side what is a 20 year old horse worth, well your not buying a 20 year old horse, you buying a 20 year old friend, you know him is he worth it to you?
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post #8 of 20 Old 07-20-2013, 01:33 PM
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In my opinion its totally worth it. If he lives another 10 years that 100 dollars a year and really is sounds like he is 100% worth it.
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post #9 of 20 Old 07-20-2013, 01:37 PM
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I think it all comes down to if you can pay for it. I will try and not be a snob as earlier pointed out, bit for me, it wouldn't be a problem. I typically lease out my outgrown horses so I can stay in contact with them, and know they're in a goo place and that I can bring them home if I need to. I think $1,000 is a great price for him, but just calculate a few months worth of expenses and see if you can keep up with it and still have enough to spare for vet calls and other bills.
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post #10 of 20 Old 07-20-2013, 01:45 PM
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you could always offer her a little less , if you think she may take it. Hope she does not get offended , and if you get to use the horse for free for a month or so, then there is the difference in the offer and asking price .
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