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        01-04-2013, 05:05 PM
      #21
    Foal
    Thanks again guys. If I have some time coming up I might go out and take a look at her just to see how she acts and rides. I'll bring along a more experienced horse person as well to take a look. I'm in no hurry to buy, and I'm an adult, so hopefully it won't become an "I must have this horse" issue. :) I definitely love Arabs though and would prefer one as my first. Anyone know of any in Florida?
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        01-04-2013, 06:00 PM
      #22
    Green Broke
    As much as I love the arabs, young ones generaly do not make good 1st horses. They take time to mature mentaly and are frighteningly intellegent. If you mess up with thier training it can be very difficult to undo
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        01-04-2013, 06:22 PM
      #23
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by oh vair oh    
    When I was 13 we were shopping around for a 10 year old horse. We found a 3 year old going on 4, and were somewhat skeptical. The horse was a natural steady-eddy, I learned so much on that horse for the next 8 years. You never know until you go and see the horse's personality and maturity. I swear every time I showed my 4 year old everybody thought he was 10 or drugged. :)
    Same here - 14 and found a 3 yr old. I had him for 25 years. We grew up together by the seat of our pants, no helmet - bareback doing a quarter mile in 18 seconds. I decorated him, painted his hoofs, he wore glitter, bows and braids - later I taught him to carry banners, go in parades and we swam across the Brazos River. Even later I taught him to drive. On weekends we trained and won at competitive trail rides. In his later years he raised my girls.

    Now the experience was unforgettable - would I encourage my own children to do some of the crazy things we did? Maybe/maybe not - but now they have things like life jackets and helmets and GPS. LOL!
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        01-04-2013, 06:25 PM
      #24
    Yearling
    My arab I have now was a first horse for a woman who was getting into horses for the first time as an adult. He was three and unbroke. They did fine together with a natural horsemanship trainer at first - just didn't do much because both were limited in experience and confidence. I got him as a 6 yr old and he couldn't cross a log without freaking out, but otherwise was completely dependable. She later moved to some older, quieter horses that didn't intimidate her so badly.

    But the point is, it worked out fine - just keep up good relations with some horse people who can help you as you hit bumpy spots (there will be many!) but I think you could do it as long as you take your time and be prepared to work at it. Think about what your goals are and make sure this horse will fit those goals. Also be ready for worst case scenarios - if she doesn't work out after a couple of years (maybe she becomes hard to handle and flighty - often seen when beginners are paired with green horses) to let her go to someone more experienced and be able to move on to another animal more suited to your abilities. Training a horse will teach you more about yourself than you'll ever know!
         
        01-04-2013, 08:54 PM
      #25
    Yearling
    My thoughts on it are...if a 3 yr old horse is ready for a beginner, somebody was probably doing too much with it too soon (riding before the horse was physically ready). Some horses do just have a calm nature, however...typically Arabians don't fall into that category. She is gorgeous, but I would look for a been there-done that horse, trust me in the end you will be glad you did.
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        01-04-2013, 09:00 PM
      #26
    Weanling
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    I looked at the Craigslist post again and she has several horses listed there and it looks like she listed her there as a 2 year old. Super red flag! Unless her reasoning is jan 1st birthday so technically she would be a 3 year old a couple of days after she posted the ad. Still not liking the initial feel of the dishonesty there... Thanks again guys... My search will continue
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    I am impressed by your mature thinking.... She is a beauty, that is for sure, but she sure looks young, and that can be frustrating and dangerous for the inexperienced. Riding is challenging enough, with out having to ride AND train your first horse.
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        01-04-2013, 09:31 PM
      #27
    Weanling
    Personally, I feel that a three-year-old (or two-year-old in this case) would only be suitable for an advanced rider. Yes, there are those calm young horses that won't injure you. But the horses are still learning, and it's best to learn from an experienced rider.

    Some people can make it work with a good instructor/trainer/mentor and lots of elbow grease.

    I would also be very suspicious of someone trying to sell such a young horse to a beginner. It seems to me that the seller is either being dishonest, or the horse was worked with too much at such a young age. Just my opinion, though.

    If you go see the horse, ask the seller to ride her first! That would be my advice.
         
        01-04-2013, 09:43 PM
      #28
    Started
    Yes, that horse looks quite young. I have one of those three year olds who has been a dream to start under saddle....However.....I have to always keep in my mind that she is only three. Even if she is well-behaved, calm and filled out....she is still three years old....with a shorter attention span and new experiences that she may not be happy with, and suddenly decide to show it. Her mind is also maturing as well, so she may try to push my buttons at some time. If she doesn't, lucky for me. But I have to be ready, if she does.

    Being a new rider and horse owner AND young...you may want a little more of something that you won't have to continuously worry about and just enjoy yourself with.
         
        01-05-2013, 12:04 AM
      #29
    Foal
    At this point, I would want to see her just out of pure curiosity... just want to see for myself what this lady considers to be a completely beginner-friendly filly. I also want to meet the lady and see what feel I get from her...

    Also out of curiosity, in your opinions what would be a fair price for a filly like this? The ad says "polish/russian arabs with Excellent Bloodlines : Huckleberry Bey, Kouvay Bey, Naradni, Aladdinn, Muscat, Nabeg." The filly herself is apparentely not registered. She is asking $1200 for her.. does that sound about right?

    Btw, Im 28 years old, so not a kid... which would explain some of that maturity hehe. I know theres a lot of young teens on here... I started my riding a bit later in life :)
         
        01-05-2013, 03:27 AM
      #30
    Green Broke
    I think it's possible to get a young horse that is suitable for a beginner, but I don't see why anybody would do it.

    It's a bit of a game of risk, horse buying.

    To me, a good horse is composed of four factors, temperament, physical suitability, training and experience. When you lack any of those things you're looking at a horse who, at the very least, needs work. To me, a beginners horse is a horse that can teach the rider and help the rider where as a horse that needs work cannot do those things. Even your best three year old is going to be lacking in training and experience purely because of physical time restraints. There is no way past that fact. Adding to it a three year old will learn any bad habit you have, and you need to be teaching them good ones.

    So when you find an older horse, you can try him out, push his buttons, see what he has done, get trainers to find out his more advanced skills. Each one of these tests decreases the amount of risk when buying a horse. And any horse you buy is a risk, it's hard to find safe, beginner friendly mounts. With a young horse, the risk goes right up because you're not just looking for an average safe mount, you're looking for an extraordinary mount who acts like an older horse would with minimal experience and training. The risk goes way up (to me).

    To top of, I don't think there is any reason why a beginner would want to buy a three year old. Personally, I think there is very little going for this age bracket of horse - in fact it's probably my least favourite. They're generally frisky, unbalanced and tiresome - kind of like the teenagers of the horse world.

    It's up to you to choose, any horse you love will be beautiful, and beauty doesn't guarantee a good horse. But that's just my two cents.

    Just to add - in my experience those extraordinary horses, like dead quiet young ones, they're not advertised on online classifieds much, they sell through word of mouth quickly, or their owners just don't part with them.
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