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        07-29-2012, 12:38 PM
      #21
    Green Broke
    I don't know any trainers that call their clients to set up lessons, it's the other way around. Now if my trainer has a completely empty schedule and gets desperate, THEN she'll call me but that's happened maybe twice? But that's only because all her clients were sidelined with either injuries to themselves or their horses and since my horse was down with an abscess... I wasn't riding either!

    I don't know how large your budget is but around here a decently trainer horse with some Dressage training isn't going to sell for less than $5k. My trainer waived all her fees when she helped me buy my horse so that I could afford a more expensive one but she only did that because I was boarding multiple horses with her, had training and lessons on an on-going basis with her AND she had some upcoming trips planned and I agreed to do all the feeding/cleaning while she was away.
         
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        07-29-2012, 01:36 PM
      #22
    Green Broke
    Most trainers make 10% commission on a horse sale. If you are looking much under 5K? That may not be worth her time or effort really.

    And too? You said you tried to talk owners of the horse down? That, if you really tried to lowball them? Made your trainer look bad, and they may well have blessed her out for wasting their time. Or your offer may have made them mad too.

    Who is paying for your college expenses? If it is your parents? They might have told trainer there is no way you can afford to have a horse at this time.

    As for lessons? It is your responsibility to schedule them, and if you have been in habit of scheduling them, and then canceling at last minute? May be why there has been no answer from her, and no great push to find you a horse.

    Don't know, not there, but things to consider.
         
        07-29-2012, 04:48 PM
      #23
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by livelovelaughride    
    She is probably keeping an eye out for your horse, but hasn't seen one yet other than the higher priced horse. Did she know you have a budget and how much you're willing to consider over/under? You realize she will be compensated for her help and time in your purchase of your horse? My coach charges roughly 500.00 but she does lots of legwork in addition to trying them out. She mentioned she likes to have a 3-6 month window if possible to get the right match.
    Yeah she does, I told her the first time I rode Willby, the horse for $5k, that my budget was rougly at the time around $3k but when trying to negotiate the owners wanted closer to $4k for him if they were to negotiate a price. I also know that she will be compensated for her help/time, it's just a matter of when I find out how much, I haven't gotten an estimate yet. Or do you not get an estimate of sorts until you actually find a horse? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's the percentage of the horse's initial purchase price right?
         
        07-29-2012, 04:51 PM
      #24
    Showing
    First of all, it's totally understandable that horse can be out of the price range. Nothing wrong with it, you'll just have to keep looking. Second, I do know trainers who'd help or recommend the horse without making a commission (if you have good long-time relations with the trainer). But of course it's not always a case.

    OP, I think you have to be more active yourself looking for the horse and trying different ones. When you find one you really like and can afford then it can be time to talk to the trainer asking if she could spend some time to go with you and evaluate the horse (and offer to pay the trainer for the time, of course).

    As for the rescues, they do have good horses, but I've never seen a horse with any serious training coming from the rescue. W/T/C/small jumping is pretty much a basic thing, doesn't mean horse will be good at jumping or dressage.
         
        07-29-2012, 07:15 PM
      #25
    Trained
    Wait long enough and you will have all sorts of OTTB's to choose from in the fall.....they usually make nice mounts, and are a lot less than $3K.

    I have never heard of anyone whose trainer calls them for lessons? If I were you, OP, I would just be taking lessons and perhaps looking for a lease. That is easier to get out of should school need more of your time than you think. JMHO.
         
        07-29-2012, 07:41 PM
      #26
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by franknbeans    
    I have never heard of anyone whose trainer calls them for lessons?
    When he/she reschedules the lesson.....
         
        07-30-2012, 10:16 PM
      #27
    Foal
    It isn't so much that I'm expecting her to call me for lessons, or even a horse. I probably shouldn't have put it that away to begin with. I guess I'm just kind of surprised to not hear from her in general. I texted her *once* on saturday real quick about scheduling lessons and haven't heard back from her.

    Also, going back a few posts, I've only cancelled a lesson last minute once, so it's not like it's a normal thing for me to do. I cancelled last minute because for me personally the heat was not tolerable. For my instructor, probably because she still had lessons that day, but for me, no. I otherwise honestly would not have cancelled. I'm not one to do something like that.

    My parents and I are fully prepared to be in horse ownership, especially while in college. If my parents felt that it couldn't be done then they wouldn't have even brought it up. The college I'm going to is my community college and it's super cheap, especially because I'll be commuting.

    I've also "branched off" (for lack of a better term) and done some searching myself. If I get responses from any of the ads, then in a few days or so I'll get a hold of my instructor and talk to her about it. Although, IMO I'd rather talk to her in person.
         
        07-31-2012, 01:23 AM
      #28
    Foal
    My instructor/BM helped me find my latest horse at no charge. She knew my price range and stuck within it. It took about 3 months... with 0 prospects from her prior to this. In fact I was coming out for a lesson when she called and said she found the perfect horse and that the mare would be delivered by the time I got there for me to trial. Talk about easy... I didn't have to travel, horse came to me, got to try out for a week and vet horse out. She was the perfect fit. To help compensate for a fee, even though none was asked for, I put both my (finished) horses in training for a few months. That way we both got a little bit out of it. And it helps keep the good client relationship.

    Like you I was impatient and ready to buy once I made up my mind to get another horse. Patience however, is a true virtue when horse shopping. Its worth taking the time to find the right horse. Looking on your own (web browsing) is a good thing. Gives you an idea of what is on the market in your price range. If a serious candidate pops up you could run it past your instructor.

    Having a budget is just life, and there are good horses in all price ranges, just be realistic to shop within your price range. I wouldnt suggest looking at horses over 25-30% higher than a pre-vet check budget. There is usually only so much negotiation room. That's not to say some people wont negotiate more or less... It all depends on how much a seller wants to get rid of a horse. Once you find what you like, commit quickly (with a contract that has a vet check clause) and vet check. ...Always vet check. A $500 horse can cost you thousands in health issues.
         
        07-31-2012, 01:59 AM
      #29
    Foal
    KarrotKreek- I hear ya! I'm not the most patient person and I hate it. But I am trying to work on it. I want to get things settled with my instructor but I don't want to be bothering her all the time (which I don't). I have been browsing quite a bit since my last post. I have found some, but some which need training/finishing. Which is understandable for my price range.

    I definitely plan on getting a vet check. I've seen/heard stories too many times where someone gets a horse for cheap but they turn out to be the most costly horse ever!

    I have also kept the searching in my budget when I'm on different websites and some nice horse ads have come up. But when again when don't nice horse ads come up?
         

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