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    12-16-2011, 01:23 AM
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Need Support.. First Lease on Sky

So I've decided Sky needs to be worked more and I can't get out to the barn enough so I've decided to lease him. It'd be great for his confidence and fun for another avid horse rider as he is a wonderfully sweet and talented horse.

Well I feel worried that the person paying for him won't be as concerned about his health or happiness.. or care how clean he is. Or care that he isn't yet fit enough to canter for 10 minutes straight.

Has anyone experienced this worry? I would be so torn up if something terrible happened to him.. physically, mentally.. just anything to ruin his passion :/

I need some support.. I just got the confirmation that someone will be leasing him (well they want to pay me in advance this weekend for the rest of the month) so I need to come to grips with this..

Thanks in advance.
     
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    12-16-2011, 01:34 AM
  #2
Yearling
Do you have a contract? Be sure to let them know about him not being able to be fit enough to canter for so long.

I'm pretty sure if the leasee is a teenage girl, she'll want your horse to be spotless and keep it's best interest in mind!
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    12-16-2011, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lubylol    
Do you have a contract? Be sure to let them know about him not being able to be fit enough to canter for so long.

I'm pretty sure if the leasee is a teenage girl, she'll want your horse to be spotless and keep it's best interest in mind!
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Yes I made a very comprehensive contract.

And yeah she knows.. she wants to take him into shows as a green horse. I don't think I'm happy with that since he's NEVER been to a show before and wouldn't that mean he needs to be clipped?

Also her bf apparently wants to trail ride on him but he refused to try him during the appointment so I don't want to just let him hop on and go out into the wilderness...

I am not having good feelings about this.. am I freaking out??
     
    12-16-2011, 01:39 AM
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I'm in a similar boat, I might have found someone to part lease Lacey and it's scary!

One thing I'm doing to make myself feel better is that I'm having the potential leasee come meet with Lacey and I a few times before we actually enter into any sort of contract together. That way I can make sure that this girl is "right" for Lacey and I, and the other girl can make sure that the two of us are right for her.
I figure that since I own Lacey and it's not 100% necessary that she be half-leased, I can afford to be super picky and wait around for the right person.

I don't know your situation so maybe you don't have that kind of leeway, but I'd at least tell the leasee that you're a little nervous because he's the first horse you've leased out, and you'd like to watch their first few "encounters" just to reassure yourself. If she/he refuses, I'd consider not leasing to that person because he is your horse and you have that right. If they're unwilling to be accommodating about that, I would worry about what else they might put up a fuss about?

Hopefully you have that kind of bargaining room. :)

And I think it's perfectly reasonable to be worried. He's your baby and you're basically sending him to daycare. It's mildly cliche but true that all moms experience nervousness the first time their babies start having lives outside of their watchful eyes. *hugs* <3


ETA: I would add to the contract something about clipping (which I don't think would necessary if she were to show him, but she might still want to), showing, other people riding without your presence (or your express permission), and whatever else you're concerned about, if you haven't already. :) Especially about the bf, personally, I'd just say no about that.
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    12-16-2011, 01:55 AM
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Yeah I don't want him just trail riding Sky... 1. Sky is deathly afraid of men 2. Sky is not a solo trail horse... 3. Sky is a LOT of horse and trust is what he works with.. no trust.. no ride!

I think I want to reprint the lease agreement after including that clause and have her fill it out again.. I want to be there with my trainer to go over everything.

Maybe I should tell her if her boyfriend wants to ride Sky, he has to lease him too :P

Yeah I want my trainer to watch her ride and interact with Sky before I sign anything. Is that a good idea?

I'm so nervous =/
     
    12-16-2011, 01:56 AM
  #6
Yearling
For showing, she'd only clip his muzzle, possibly ears, bridle path, and fetlocks. But I clip them anyways even though I've never been to a show (been around the show environment, I'm not mentally ready haha)
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    12-16-2011, 02:00 AM
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Well I wouldn't mind that, just no body clips to skimp on cooling him out.. I rather him not be in a blanket the entire time.

Thanks for clearing that up for my luby :) I've shown once and did really well.. but Sky's never been and he's the type that would probably take down a trailer if he were tied to it. If she shows him, I'm so going to be there.. even if I have to fly x many hours.
     
    12-16-2011, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by lubylol    
For showing, she'd only clip his muzzle, possibly ears, bridle path, and fetlocks. But I clip them anyways even though I've never been to a show (been around the show environment, I'm not mentally ready haha)
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You clip your horses MUZZLE???

As in.. to get the whiskerrs off

Its illegal here!!


Sky, it is natural to worry, he's like a child to you!
Don't give a time line on the contract, just put in a clause that if you are unhappy with the way your horse is being cared for, or there is a possible danger to his health, you will withdraw the contract and there will be no lease.

I'd want to see the man ride first, for sure!! Xxx
     
    12-16-2011, 08:45 AM
  #9
Weanling
I also leased out my horse for the first time for the same reason as you. She has been leasing for two months now! I got lucky. I knew the person who's leasing him before I decided I even wanted to lease him out. I knew her from my friend, and she took lessons from someone at my barn. She tried him out for several of her lessons, and when she showed up at a show I was at I let her take him into a walk-trot class, and they really clicked!

I still felt like you though, it's extremely hard to trust someone else with your baby. In my contract (since I board self care and she would be needed to do chores on some day) I had a list of what I was responsible for and what she was responsible for, so there was no confusion. I had a part in for care of the horse, and if for whatever reason I feel she was not taking care of him properly I could end the lease.

As for the boyfriend, I made a point in the contract to add that NO ONE else could ride my horse without me allowing it. It's a liability thing, I know and trust her riding, but if one of her friends gets up and kicks and jabs or straight up falls off... it would not be good.

I also have for shows she has to give me a notice, preferably two weeks in advance. For the first couple times I'll probably help her out at shows just so she gets in the swing of things, but she'd always be with a trainer and she's already been to several shows with me before so I'm not that worried about when she get's there.

Are they taking lessons? I forgot to add it in my contract, but my lessee takes lessons every week. I think it really helps.

Even with a huge contract trying to cover everything there possibly is, I still was nervous when I started leasing him out. After the first month, I saw my horse was being taken care of properly, rode fine (he used to be ridden by me + some... eh.. riders a while ago, in a bad situation, and I could tell they rode poorly from how he started to ride with me, he was completely different!), and he has no bad habits starting, so I was able to relax more.

Sorry for the novel. But to sum it up:
Make sure you 100% trust these people. If your gut feels off, trust your gut. You can NEVER be too careful!
     
    12-16-2011, 09:08 AM
  #10
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Originally Posted by DuffyDuck    
You clip your horses MUZZLE???

As in.. to get the whiskerrs off

Its illegal here!!


Sky, it is natural to worry, he's like a child to you!
Don't give a time line on the contract, just put in a clause that if you are unhappy with the way your horse is being cared for, or there is a possible danger to his health, you will withdraw the contract and there will be no lease.

I'd want to see the man ride first, for sure!! Xxx
Yeah I have a clause in there that says no Sub -leasing and all people must be approved by the lessor (me.)

And yeah I don't think Sky's ready to be shown.. and she does jumping and I don't want him to jump.. I just want him on the flat and exercised.. I mean I don't even have a trailer, how is she expecting to get him to shows? I'm definitely dragging my trainer into this as she is more experienced than I am and whatnot.

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Originally Posted by OuttatheBlue    
I also leased out my horse for the first time for the same reason as you. She has been leasing for two months now! I got lucky. I knew the person who's leasing him before I decided I even wanted to lease him out. I knew her from my friend, and she took lessons from someone at my barn. She tried him out for several of her lessons, and when she showed up at a show I was at I let her take him into a walk-trot class, and they really clicked!

I still felt like you though, it's extremely hard to trust someone else with your baby. In my contract (since I board self care and she would be needed to do chores on some day) I had a list of what I was responsible for and what she was responsible for, so there was no confusion. I had a part in for care of the horse, and if for whatever reason I feel she was not taking care of him properly I could end the lease.

As for the boyfriend, I made a point in the contract to add that NO ONE else could ride my horse without me allowing it. It's a liability thing, I know and trust her riding, but if one of her friends gets up and kicks and jabs or straight up falls off... it would not be good.

I also have for shows she has to give me a notice, preferably two weeks in advance. For the first couple times I'll probably help her out at shows just so she gets in the swing of things, but she'd always be with a trainer and she's already been to several shows with me before so I'm not that worried about when she get's there.

Are they taking lessons? I forgot to add it in my contract, but my lessee takes lessons every week. I think it really helps.

Even with a huge contract trying to cover everything there possibly is, I still was nervous when I started leasing him out. After the first month, I saw my horse was being taken care of properly, rode fine (he used to be ridden by me + some... eh.. riders a while ago, in a bad situation, and I could tell they rode poorly from how he started to ride with me, he was completely different!), and he has no bad habits starting, so I was able to relax more.

Sorry for the novel. But to sum it up:
Make sure you 100% trust these people. If your gut feels off, trust your gut. You can NEVER be too careful!
Well I can't tell if it's a gut feeling or me just not wanting it to happen. I rather lease Sky to someone looking for just a pleasurable ride, not show him as a "green horse" what does that mean anyway.. did she mean a training class or...?

Yeah I told her directly "He refused to hop on Sky during the appointment" and she's all "but he's a good rider..blahlala" it's not about that.. it's about how they fit together, right? And if he wants to take him into the wilderness in my dressage saddle (I don't own a trailing saddle) without any other riders.. idk I don't see good things happening. Sky's only ever been on a solo trail ride with me, and it was very short, like 20 minutes down and looped back.

Well I'd like her to take lessons with him but I think she just wants to straight up train him.. cause she's all "oh I can help with that.. I've been riding for 13 years.." I mean Sky JUST learned about leg yields and trotting serpentines straight so it'd make more sense to progress slowly from there rather than try to rush him into a discombobulated canter or teach him to jump or whatnot.

I'm definitely going to see if my trainer will come by this weekend just to sit in with them and I, and maybe another close friend at the barn too.

It'd be a different story if she just wanted to ride him for fun, not.. in shows or whatnot.

Thanks for reading my babble :P I'm glad I'm not the only one that has felt this way.
     

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