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    05-03-2011, 12:06 AM
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Foal
new horse owner needs help!

Last fall I was asked by my mother to bring my Grandfather's horses from his farm to mine, he and my grandmother both have serious health problems and were no longer able to stay on the farm and take care of them. I brought a mule and two draft crosses that my grandfather had broke and trained to drive and also ride. All three had basically been free ranging on several hundred acres for about three years with little work or training due to my grandfather's illness.
At first they were fairly well behaved, I let them run in a pasture about 10 acres large, We groomed them, had them checked out by the vet, had them shod and trimmed and worked with them as much as we could until winter set in, At the time I did not have a barn but I did house them in a neighbor's in extreme weather. I now have a brand new barn that was just finished a few weeks ago.
My problem is this, The mule has very little ground manners, he jumps or tears down every fence he comes across, he has a biting problem and once he is out of the pasture if you can catch him and hook a lead rope on he is impossible to move, I have already had a torn ligiment in my shoulder and two broken toes trying to get him led back into the gate . One of the cross drafts (both are geldings) has a stallion attitude, he is high strung, refuses to be caught in the feild, also has little to no ground manners and is extremely dominant over the herd, I have two AQHA Quarter geldings that he bites and kicks when the mood strikes, my neighbor has a herd and this draft cross is obessed with one of her mares and if her horses are anywhere in range of mine my gelding will also kick or tear a fence down to get to her horses, I have now put in a couple of other pastures but no matter where I put them, the mule and this gelding are always causing me grief, I do know that both have been broke, but as mentioned eariler, it had been a few years since they had been rode or worked with. I am a fairly green horse owner myself and my quarters were dead broke when I got them and have never had any problems I could not handle. I am so lost and over my head with this situation, I do not have the experience to train them and overcome their bad habits. I have talked to people about finding other homes for them but so far I have only found people who just want to take them to sale and I am terrified that they would wind up at slaughter. I want so badly to keep them and work through this because my grandfather loves to come out and sit in his wheelchair and watch them but I just don't know how to fix the behavior problems so my pastures will be in harmony, I cannot even stall these two because they can really cause alot of damage with all of the kicking and I am afraid one of them is going to get hurt. I am desperate for advice. If anyone has any words of wisdom I would so appreciate it. Thanks!
     
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    05-03-2011, 12:35 PM
  #2
Foal
It's hard to tell without me actually seeing you catch them but have you tried sort of like, when I catch my horse I take something he likes with me and then he associates being caught with good things. E.g I show him the treat as I approach and give it to him when he's caught. You might want to bring a few and then reward him as he walks etc.

As far as getting them to move, I don't know, but if I have one of the ponies I work with out in the field (the ones that are hard to catch I mean) I just shake a bucket of feed and they'll fly to me and if I have it in one of those rubber tub things I just fold it in half when they get there and they'll stay on my heels anywhere I go but I don't know your horses well enough to say how that would go so be careful but it works with our ones.
(You might want to stand behind a gate or something in case the horse does gallop to you and doesn't stop in time)

Oh but don't try it in a field with other horses or they will probably ALL come to you and then you could get hurt by them or they could end up fighting.

This may help you out.
     
    05-03-2011, 10:10 PM
  #3
Weanling
I would contact a trainer. Sounds like you need help! Good luck!
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    01-10-2012, 12:05 AM
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Weanling
I feel for you my husband preaches this to me all the time when he feels I'm getting emotianally attached to something. They are livestock if you freed them tomorrow and they came across a better place they wouldn't come back. I would either get a trainer or sell or give them away, I'm sure your grandfather will not hold it against you. Be strong.
     
    01-10-2012, 09:38 AM
  #5
Started
For the time being what ever fencing you have up make it electric and have it on at all times. That way both donkey and draft will respect the lines.

As for advice in the situation find a trainer. One for donkeys and one for horses. From what I have learned on the forum donkeys have a different way of thinking then horses so you will need a donkey trainer :( as for the draft he needs a trainer as well to give him the kick in the butt to learn his manners again.

Goodluck I am sending lots of hugs yoru way :)
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    01-10-2012, 09:43 AM
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Green Broke
Mules are totally \different than horses. I would look into a mule forum for help with that. Are your fences in proper shape? That could be the issue with the one breaking through them.
     
    01-10-2012, 01:27 PM
  #7
Trained
Give them both away or euthanize them both before they kill you. Your grandfather can no longer handle them, and you don't know how.
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    01-10-2012, 02:08 PM
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Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
Give them both away or euthanize them both before they kill you. Your grandfather can no longer handle them, and you don't know how.
Are you always so extreme and heartless? Seems like you always react in the least heartening way in your posts.
     
    01-10-2012, 02:21 PM
  #9
Started
Its not heartless nor extreme imo. Its the safest thing the op can do. The next best thing after that for there situation would be to get a trainer.
     
    01-10-2012, 02:43 PM
  #10
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by kait18    
its not heartless nor extreme imo. Its the safest thing the op can do. The next best thing after that for there situation would be to get a trainer.
Putting an animal down for being an animal is extreme to me and that should not be the 1st option. There is a dominant horse in every herd.
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