Have you ever raised a horse before? Specifically, if you have to ask, you're not ready for a foal.
Thanks for the tips. I actually did find a pretty good in utero foal option for $5k. I was hoping I could find something cheaper, but $5k is probably the max amount I'd be willing to spend if I do decide to get an Arabian bred for halter.
Originally Posted by JustDressageIt View Post
Subscribing - I want to PM you with my thoughts and opinion :)
I'd love to hear them!
You can bond with an adult horse, and they have the benefits of generally having some training already put on them. They're also ready to ride, which if you get a baby, you won't be able to do for at least 3-4 years.
As a newbie, getting a foal is the very worst idea you could have.
It seems to me that there's a clear split in horse people. People who have horses primarily to ride (more like a hobby) and people who have horses because they well, just love horses. I might be a noob, but I have done my homework in a lot of areas these part few months that I've been researching. I'm aware that I wouldn't be able to ride my foal for a long time and that's not an issue with me. I would love some more insight though as to how a new horse owner who is willing to research and learn could ruin a horse. From what I've read, if I'm unable to train my horse; I could hire a trainer. But I've never owned a horse, let alone a foal; so any insight on how you can ruin a horse would be appreciated.
For the record, I've never trained a puppy...let alone owned one. (I've always had rescue animals growing up). This idea of getting a foal isn't because I want a cutesy babe horse that I can sell when it's an adult because "I'm bored of it". I want a foal that I can bond with and create a lifelong friendship with.
Originally Posted by blue eyed pony View Post
You are nowhere near experienced enough for a foal...
If you are dead set on an Arabian, which IMO is not a good option for you either as many of them are quite fiery and sensitive, then I would look for something older and dead-broke.
Unfortunately for me (but fortunately for my horse), I'm not going to be able to get a horse unless my health issues plateau out a little more. But, my boyfriend is in this with me and also is going to be getting a horse. So, he's my backup firm hand. :) Although, I have been seeing progress so I'm trying to remain optimistic. I'm still unsure if I'll be able to compete in any type of event in X amount of years, time will tell. I also have to say I disagree with you on the breed. ;)
While you can bond with a foal if you get one, it will cost you far more to have it fully trained than what the horse will cost you, to say nothing of the cost of feeding and caring for it at least 3 years before you get any use out of it, and you indicated a hesitation to spend too much money.
The last thing you want is to buy a horse, work with it for years, and not end up with what you want. This is a buyers market and there are lots of horses out there that you can buy that will suit your exact needs...
I really have no idea what discipline I'd do. I was hoping to get a horse and try to multi-train her and see which one she prefers. Like I started previously, I'm not getting a horse just to compete or do events...that is more like the icing on the cake. I'm getting a horse because I love horses. If I ended up getting a horse that I really bonded with and she was unable to do anything or even ride, then I would be fine with that. I'm not the type of person to just get rid of an injured animal because I just want to ride it.
My hesitation on spending too much money was in regards to how ludicrous it is to buy a horse for a lot of money when I may never get to compete with that horse and also when compared to just the absurdity (in my eyes) of buying an animal for a high dollar amount when there are so many rescue horses out there that need homes.
As far as your comment on me having to wait 4+ years before I get any use out of it....(maybe I'm posting on the wrong forum? Lol). I don't view having a foal that I'm unable to ride for awhile as useless.
Also, as far as training a horse goes. I have quite awhile before this all goes down. In the meantime, I plan to research and study. If the concepts of training and raising horses cannot be fully grasped through extensive reading, then maybe I'll consider interning at a horse farm that raises foals until I'm ready for my horse. I do have about a year as I stated in my original post.
I'm indifferent about owning a horse that "doesn't suit my needs" as far as what discipline I want to pursue. Again, I want a horse as a pet not a hobby.
I don't know really anything about the breeding sides of things but one thing to think about about the Arab types is that halter bred Arabs have a tendency to be somewhat "hotter" and possibly flightier than a performance bred Arab.
Basically, all have to say is don't discount the bond you can create with an older horse. 4 years ago I would have told you that you were crazy if you told me about where I've gotten to with my mare. Pretty much the only way I can believe it is because I've lived it.
And yay Arabians! They're my favorite. Haha
The brain being bred out of the halter horses is actually one of my primary concerns. Being that they (seemingly?) only seem to be bred for their faces, whereas performance horses require their brains to perform (dressage for example!) has made me develop a real concern over getting a halter bred horse. I thought I may be safer if I had a horse whose dam was halter bred but sire was bred for performance...not sure how that would turn out though.
Anyway, thank you for your input regarding the bonding issue. I lost my childhood dog about 6 years ago (still not over it lol) and haven't had any pets in a long, long time. So, I was really looking to get one horse that I could bond with and keep for the rest of their life. I kept reading that it's easier to develop deeper bonds with foals, and getting an in utero/other breeding options to get my desired foal is just the icing on the cake.
Originally Posted by DancingArabian View Post
For what you want, you're not getting anything like it for a couple thousand.
As a "horse noob", I think you're romanticising the amount of money and work involved in breeding and raising a foal. If you're only wanting to put in a couple thousand NOW, what about the vet visits the mare will need, the stud fee - what if the mare dies and you have to compensate the owner? Without horse handling or training experience, how we you going to train the foal? How will you back it for the first time safely? Where will you keep it? Not everyplace has the facilities to keep a pregnant mare or mare and foal or even just a foal. Your plan has you spending thousands of dollars every year for several years before you can even think of riding. But you want to stay under $2000? Not happening.
Bad idea all around.
You can absolutely bond with a grown horse. They aren dogs. Raising one from a foal is more sentimental to you than it is to the horse. Get some lessons, learn about keeping a horse then when you're in a good place buy a grown one.
(this is coming from an Arabian owner)
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It amazes me how often people jump to conclusions due to their own miscomprehensions or assumptions.
As a "horse owner", you're clearly jumping to conclusions on what type of horse owner I would be. Please refrain yourself from categorizing all new comers and instead ask questions before you automatically make assumptions.
Also, you can bond with adult dogs.
It's so irritating when people completely ignore what I say and automatically assume that because I'm new that I'm lazy and incompetent. I get it, most noobs that post probably are lazy and incapable of comprehending any type of information that isn't overly simplified. I'm not that type. Please take the time to read my post instead of stigmatizing me as a moron. I should have put this in my first post. Also, please be sure to reread this so that you do not to miscomprehend what I'm saying in this paragraph.
**Lastly, I'm looking for input from horse LOVERS not hobby horse owners who just sell their horses because they didn't suit their needs. Would you sell your dog because he barks too much or drools a lot? If yes, then no offense but I don't want your input.