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        06-26-2009, 01:54 PM
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    I was talking to my trainer, and the owner of the horse im going to lease, and she said that I wont be able to really do any serious riding until fall on Chili. She said that I should ride 4 times a week for 30 minutes, 25 of which walking and 5 trotting. She said that I can start increasing ride times in a month and a half, but said that I should only add 10 minutes every week once I start doing that. Then I asked when I could start jumping him (starting out at 6"-1') and she said, oh maybe late September to mid October... REALLY?! I mean, don't get me wrong I love being around Chili, but I was hoping I would be able to jump be next month or sooner. I'm not going to be able to do really anything for a long time, she said that I can do lateral movements and trot pole stuff once a week; oohhh wow, how much fun, NOT! I love Chili to death, but I really don't think I can handle waiting that long. I would much rather get a horse that is ready to jump and just needs a little help on the flat work. Chili needs help on EVERYTHING!

    I have been interested in this really nice gelding that is in Pony Club, so he can do it all and is calm. Here is his ad: DreamHorse.com Horse ID: 1392921 - Designated Driver
    I am going to act once I hear your guys' opinion.

    Please help me, I'm a wreck ):
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        06-26-2009, 02:14 PM
    Hun, when working with horses in any situation you need patience and lots of it. Don't rush anything, slow down.
        06-26-2009, 02:22 PM
    I remember when my husband was taking lessons. He spent so much time walking around and around .....and around the round pen he was bored to death. In the end it helped him and our horse. Patience is not easy when your in a hurry it always pays off in the long haul though.
        06-26-2009, 02:34 PM
    I never get the whole view point that anything but jumping is boring. I do so much more in flat lessons. You can do leg yields, work on bending, circles, two point, sitting trot, work on moving uphill, softening to the bit, serpentines, using your ends, lenghtening and shortening of strides, being soft off the leg, work on your own position, and that is just the beginning!

    Besides, would you rather take it slow now and excel later, or rush into it, one of you get hurt, or the horse develop serious issues, etc.

    If you don't have patience to learn, then don't ride. Horses are big and potentially dangerous, there is no room for impatience on a horse ;-/
        06-26-2009, 02:53 PM
    As everyone else has said, with horses, slow and steady wins the race. Jumping is not the only serious riding. Also, how old is Chili? Your trainer may be wanting to wait for him to fully mature in his bones and muscles before jumping or doing faster work. 1dog gave some excellent suggestions that will be very helpful to have mastered when the time comes to jump. Also, referring to your last couple of sentences, eventer, if the horse is truly a made and ready jumper, he should have a solid foundation of correct flatwork. Lateral movements build muscle for lead changes, and polework at the trot lays the groundwork for a bold and correct jumper, both important later.

    I would stick with Chili, personally. It sounds like he is a good, quiet boy, and you have the opportunity to be a big part of his training, and learn all of what goes into "making" a finished horse. Everything that Chili needs to learn must be refreshed periodically with a finished horse as well, to keep him soft and supple.

    Don't rush, just sit back and enjoy the ride
        06-26-2009, 03:40 PM
    Thanks for replying guys. Chili is 9, almost 10 years old. I know that waiting is probably worth it, I just want to start getting some where with my riding. I havent been able to do anything really. First lease horse didnt work out, wasnt made for jumping and sucked at dressage. Second lease horse I LOVED and wanted to be with her forever but she sadly went lame in her hocks and couldnt be ridden faster then a trot anymore (after she was don't healing up). Third lease horse turned into a nut once I got her home and I had a really bad fall off of her that knocked my confidience, but I still rode her. She was to much horse for me (while jumping) in the end, she would grab the bit and run full speed at the jumps. Then I found out she might have Navicular. Now Chili... He is a wonderful horse, I just don't think he likes jumping (when my trainer let me try he acted like it was going to eat him and he galloped all around the arena [though I blame that on myself]). I just feel like at the stage im at in my riding I need a horse that is a seasoned jumper and is a calm one too.
    I almost feel as though my trainer is doing this on purpose. She said that once im done with the three month lease that if I want to keep on leasing him then he is my problem if he doesnt work out, a.i. If I don't want him anymore then I get to sell him and he can't go back to her place.
    I think im going to make a deal with her that I will take him, work on his training so I can still get the experience, and put him up for sale for her and get him sold. All of which will probably take the whole summer.
    My mom said that I can do that since we are about to give our mare away to the girl that has been riding her for a few years now, leaving us with three horses, including Chili. Our pasture can hold and feed up to five horses, so she said that I could start looking for a new lease horse once Rosie is gone. Oh and please don't call us horse traders, if you knew the entire situation it wouldnt seem like we were.

    Anyways, im trying not to be an upset freak, so I should probably stop writing before I start, heh. Thanks for replying everyone.
        06-26-2009, 08:46 PM
    Maybe you should get into horse racing (sarcasm). No offense but to me it sound like your being selfish and putting your needs, more like desires and dreams, before the horses needs.
        06-27-2009, 01:45 AM
    I can understand why you may think that, I guess its somewhat true. My trainer is asking me to baby him. He isnt all that out of shape and is only 9 years old, I really don't see the need to wait a month to do anything on him. He is doing good at what I've been asking him for, walking and trotting on a loose rein for half an hour to 45 minutes, he seems to love it. So I just don't get why all of a sudden I have to walk for 25 minutes and trot for five. Now that I've heard your guys' opinions im starting to think that I might just stick with him, I think in the long run it would be great for both of us; he would be in a loving home and I would be able to really learn on him. I do like him a lot, I was being very selfish, that's all. I am going to do the three month lease and go from there, if he doesnt work out then he doesnt work out, though im hoping he does.

    Thank you 1dog for all the great ideas, I will try all of them; they sound like fun!

    Thanks to everyone else for changing my mind, sorry for being so selfish and not putting my horse before me, that's totally unlike me, HA.

    Ill keep everyone updated (if you would like) by making videos and stuff.
        06-27-2009, 12:02 PM
    Please do!

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