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    01-07-2013, 10:19 AM
  #21
Green Broke
It all depends on the couple :)

My husband and I were dating during his first tour and I didn't want to move around for "just" a boyfriend but I did want to leave where I was. I compromised and moved to a place that made me happier but was in the middle of all the cities my then boyfriend was carted off to. Once he finished and went to his second tour we knew his military job was going to be in one place so I moved to Maryland and well here we are! Got married a couple of years after I moved.

My favorite neighbor had six cats. SIX. The military paid for them and all their needs to get through the borders for every new location.
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    01-07-2013, 09:52 PM
  #22
Weanling
A horse and trailer are considered part of your household goods. As far as I know, the military will pay for the move, but there's some paperwork involved. When your new hubby talks with the moving people, be sure to mention there is a horse involved and ask about whether or not hauling expenses are covered.

I'm moving to Northern VA this summer, so I'm looking into it too. I've got to get my horse over from Indiana, and I want to make it the least stressful that I can for everyone.
     
    01-08-2013, 08:55 AM
  #23
Weanling
I just thought she would be considered a luxury and they may not pay. Maybe having horses in the military isn't as uncommon as I think.
     
    01-08-2013, 11:52 AM
  #24
Green Broke
You are going to be authorized a weight based on rank, most likely you will move it your self, then they pay you "x" amount per pound based on your weight alowance. Say you are allowed 5000 lbs, You go weigh your truck and trailer empty, then load it , and get a weight ticket, You will get a certain amont per lb. Doesnt matter what the lb actually is. You mentioned Boot camp, though. First tours are rough alone, more so with a spouse. You need to chill out on all the extras. Most young couple have huge issues just getting a basic small apartment together. Add on that board or a big enough place to keep a horse and other animals. Even a dog is a huge burden as you are going to find many rentals wont accept them. I think you need to be prepared to board the horse where it is now. Get settled in the new location before you even consider bring a horse along.
     
    01-08-2013, 11:58 AM
  #25
Yearling
As a prior member of the United States Navy, I can safely say that the military will NOT pay to move your horse or your trailer if you were to move to a place like Hawaii. But as Joe said, if you use your trailer and do the weight and say you're using it to "move" they may cover the mileage of it.
     
    01-08-2013, 12:25 PM
  #26
Weanling
Thanks, I know they reimburse the move by a weight limit. I just didn't know if some things wouldn't be covered as they were a luxury item.
Joe, she will be at my parents until I bring her with me. That way I can take my time to look for a barn and see how expenses are going to be.
     
    01-08-2013, 12:36 PM
  #27
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Joe4d    
you are going to be authorized a weight based on rank, most likely you will move it your self, then they pay you "x" amount per pound based on your weight alowance. Say you are allowed 5000 lbs, You go weigh your truck and trailer empty, then load it , and get a weight ticket, You will get a certain amont per lb. Doesnt matter what the lb actually is. You mentioned Boot camp, though. First tours are rough alone, more so with a spouse. You need to chill out on all the extras. Most young couple have huge issues just getting a basic small apartment together. Add on that board or a big enough place to keep a horse and other animals. Even a dog is a huge burden as you are going to find many rentals wont accept them. I think you need to be prepared to board the horse where it is now. Get settled in the new location before you even consider bring a horse along.
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Originally Posted by Drifting    
As a prior member of the United States Navy, I can safely say that the military will NOT pay to move your horse or your trailer if you were to move to a place like Hawaii. But as Joe said, if you use your trailer and do the weight and say you're using it to "move" they may cover the mileage of it.
ITA with Joe and Drifting. It will come down to whether you do a full DITY, partial DITY or full-TMO move when you PCS. (DITY is essentially DIY) For full or partial DITY you could possibly get away with claiming the horse/trailer as part of your moving weight BUT the most likely scenario is that you would see payment for the horse weight but not the trailer as with DITY/partial DITY you are to weigh the moving vehicles (trailers included) empty and then loaded and provide the tickets at the end of the move so that TMO can calculate the weight moved. The vehcile/trailer are covered under the mileage portion of the travel allowances. The aforementioned costs that are payed/partially payed for transport and movement of household pets would not apply to the horse(s).
     
    01-08-2013, 12:48 PM
  #28
Green Broke
To add - having ANY animals, but especially when you are talking large animals, and being part of the military neccessitates having a solid Plan B and C for the care and keeping of those animals if/when orders come through that are contrary to what you expected (ie OCUNUS, etc). For a horse, this (to me) means having a plan for where you will board the horse if/when the situation arises in which you will not be able to take the horse with you either immediatley or for the duration of the time. Whether this is a formal boarding facility or if you are fortunate enough to have family with the facilities to maintain the horse for you - and to also be sure you are allowing for this cost in your budgetary planning.
We were very careful about our accumulation of animals during my husbands AD time for just this reason. We were mindful of the limitations of small household pets (housing is generally two "domestics" - though this varies by base and whether it is base housing or PPV housing, rentals are a crap shoot you may find someone willing to rent to more or you may find no pet friendly housing options on the rental market) during the time that we were living in base housing and private rentals and we only accumulated our large animals and additional domestic pets once we had purchased our home/land and knew that if/when he PCSd (Plan A was to stay here for the duration of his career - but we had Plan B) we would likley split households for that last tour (he was nearing the end of his career at that point) rather than attempt to relocate with all our animals and re-homing was not an option for us. As it happened, Plan B had to go into effect because he did get orders to PCS and we did split households with myself and the children staying here with the dogs, cats and horses and my husband moving on without us for the last three years of his AD time. Was it optimal, no - did it work for us, yes. It was what we had to do - not only for the animal reasons, but also because we had a house to consider in a market where real estate was NOT moving and renting was not an option due to our financing having a residential occupancy clause.
It is not at all impossible to have horses and be a military member/family - it just takes careful planning and forethought.
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    01-08-2013, 12:57 PM
  #29
Green Broke
Just for clarification, the militarty WILL NOT pay transportation for your horse or trailer. Its all going to be out of pocket for you. Heres a good site that lists the military bases with stables on or near its a little outdated but still a good source of info.--http://www.militarystables.com/

Once you find out where your going to be stationed make sure you do ALOT of research on the general costs of horses and whatnot. I was going to bring my horse over here to hawaii with me...but its 1400 for the boat ride, 3-4000 for plane and its about 2ce the normal price for feed/vet/farrier care over here so make sure having your horse with you wont break the bank so to speak.


And give yourself plenty of leeway time. I would wait until you're husband graduates his AIT and gets his first duty station before you think about bringing your horse anywhere with you. AIT (or whatever it is for coast guard) don't usually last long so itll be another move within a month or more depending on his job.

But good luck with it and congrats on the wedding! Keep us updated if you can.
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    01-08-2013, 12:58 PM
  #30
Weanling
Yeah, my husband's career is winding down, so we're looking at one, possibly two more moves with this horse. Moving so much is tough. It does take a lot of planning. I tend to go at it with the mindset of, "I'll do what it takes to take care of the situation on my own, but I'll keep myself aware of all the various rules and regulations and use them when they can benefit me."

Keep an eye on the fact that several bases still have stables, and you can put your horses on base. But there will be strict rules, and not a lot of "service" for your horse. It's up to you to take care of it.
     

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