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post #81 of 100 Old 08-02-2011, 09:24 PM
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This video is dressage rider Courtney King Dye speaking about her accident schooling a horse on the flat, and helmet safety. She's an Olympic rider - it can happen to anyone. She's been in recovery 16 months so far. I also suffered a career-ending injury in a freak accident, and although a helmet wouldn't have made a difference in my case, helmets have saved many lives.

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post #82 of 100 Old 08-02-2011, 09:25 PM
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here's the link again, not sure it works in my first post:
‪Courtney King Dye - Riders4Helmets‬‏ - YouTube

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post #83 of 100 Old 08-03-2011, 03:23 PM Thread Starter
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I didn't mean to sound igornant, and I guess saying they're a waste was wrong, BUT, I still think that if you're going on a trail ride or doing a rodeo thing (barrel racing, reining, cattle penning, roping, blah blah etc etc) you don't really need a helmet, and to be completely honest, no one would wear one because they would look RIDICULOUS in that situation. I get it in jumping, or racing or whathaveyou, but not for western riding, just mainly because it would look silly, and frankly, unprofessional.
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post #84 of 100 Old 08-03-2011, 04:14 PM
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I'm cross-posting this from another forum. Sorry it's long, but a lot of people have been impacted by head injuries - all of us who have been in the horse world for a long time have seen lives ended or severely limited by lack of helmets. And styles change - there are Western coaches who insist on helmets at all times, and they're ALWAYS allowed at shows, you can't be penalized for them (which many people don't know).

Quoted post:
"My mother fell off a horse while trail riding with friends. No helmet. She spent some time in a coma and the next two years learning how to speak, take care of herself, and do basic things like cook from a recipe or grocery shop. I was twelve and my brother was nine. Ironically, my mother forbade me from riding without a helmet but she thought she would be fine because she was just hacking out with friends.

Because she physically looked fine a couple of months after the injury people outside of our family unit lost perspective of how badly she was injured since they did not have to see her daily challenges first hand.

I didnt read all the posts so not sure if anyone already noted this, but free will is not a valid argument IMHO. We ALL pay for these accidents whether it be a loved one we must care for, increased insurance premiums, increased health costs to cover the care for un/under insured (sometimes for life).

bluhof and equinelerium, it absolutely affects those around you. In my situation I essentially became a caretaker at a young age of my younger brother and sometimes my own mother. I was forced to grow up quickly because of someone else,s actions. The strain on my family was enormous, both emotionally and financially. I am still suprised we made it through intact!

I find it ridiculous when anyone rides without a helmet because it is so simple to put on and they have so many different styles and price points. Given my history, I find it very selfish when parents take the stance they can ride without a helmet (for whatever reason) when they are responsible for a child. You could carry that argument out to anyone who has anybody in their life that cares about them. The impact of an individual's decision is not limited to only themselves, and I think people forget this aspect.

It takes not even a minute to put a helmet on, and bad injuries can happen to the best of us, as Courtney unfortunately has shown.

Sorry for the long post, but that video brought back some painful memories (in case you couldnt tell). I am very glad to see she is working through her recovery and spreading the message about helmet use. Hopefully this will make those who go without reconsider. I wish her all the best!"

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post #86 of 100 Old 08-03-2011, 04:29 PM
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Sorry about the blank-looking post, I was trying to attach a picture of me schooling my jumper at home without a helmet, back when I was young and stupid. I used to regularly jump courses over 4' with him (helmetless)... so I was never a helmet Nazi. But I've been around long enough now to learn a few things. When I didn't care about my own safety, it wasn't because I was cool or tough, as I thought, it was because I lacked self-worth. And I was selfish without realizing it - as in Courtney's case, or the mom in my previous post, is it really fair for your loved ones to have to care for you for the rest of your life because you're afraid of looking silly?

A polo pro in these parts became a lifelong invalid when he suffered a head injury. He had a wife and baby daughter, who will now spend the rest of their lives looking after him. I bet if he could do it over he wouldn't give a crap about how unprofessional it looked to ride with a helmet.
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post #87 of 100 Old 08-03-2011, 05:45 PM
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1) People who can just buy and sell horses like it's no big deal. I know someone who went through 12 horses since this past March. His reasons: Not trained enough (gorgeous 5yr old mare, perfect smooth trot, sweetest temperment, just needed some more miles) Eh I don't like her color (Flashy chestnut TONS of chrome near perfect conformation) He can't sit (horse was a great pretty broke horse. This person however just wanted to ride in the shows and was too lazy to ride during the week. Show day came was stiff and bucked him he decided to sell it because he couldnt let it sit then run the tar out of it.) There are many more excuses but these are the main ones that got me.

2) People who get mad at the horse for sending them the wrong cues. Yes let's yank the reins about 40 times in a different direction each time and then expect the horse to understand what you want them to do. I personally know someone who does this also.

3) Talks down to me about my riding or my horse. An ex-friend used to do this. If I ever knocked a pole or something(which I always brush off and come out of the arena with a smile....cause you're supposed to have fun right? She would come over,uninvited, and talk to me like I was a beginner and I don't mean beginner like walk, trot, sometimes canter beginner I mean never been on a hrose kind of beginner. The whole time I just grit my teeth, smile, nod, and walk away. It annoys the heck out of me because she knows my capabilities....i don't need to relearn the alphabet.

4) People who try to tell you how to ride your horse..............when they've never even ridden the horse. AND when they make false accusations about your horse(yup both rolled into one) My friend does this. She put me on her horse and said "See this is how you have to ride TC" I rode her horse around and he was COMPLETELY different from TC. I told her that and she said "nuh uh" Well at our next show I told her to just get on him and walk around so she could see what I mean. She refused. Her excuse...he's too wild at shows. Hmm wrong he's a complete gentleman at shows and she knows it. So one day we were riding at my place....told her to jump on him to get a feel since most horses are calmer at home(though he's just as calm at the shows) she refused again. This time I asked why her response....."Because he bucks." Okay that got me steamed. TC hasn't bucked in OVER a year because we got everything straightened out. His issue was he never had anyone working him and he was overweight and didn't want to do it. Now he's in shape and actaully WANTS to go....he'd go all day if I let him. I pride myself in his training now and she's trying to shoot it down. I told him he doesn't buck anymore(the truth) and she blew me off, said whatever untacked her horse and left.

Sorry I ranted a bit during this.

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post #88 of 100 Old 08-04-2011, 04:23 PM
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The biggest pet peeve for me right now is when I go to catch Clyde in the pasture, and SO many of the horses there have overgrown, flared and all around badly cared for hooves, but everyone thinks they're fine.

Most boarders at the facility use the same farrier, who is dirt cheap (I'm sure that's why they stick with him..) and all the horses have terribly flared feet, long heels, etc...

Now I know I'm a beginner, but since my horse came with such bad hooves, I spent so many hours researching hoof anatomy, different trimming methods, barefoot vs shod vs farrier pasture trim, etc... I know enough now to make good decisions and judge when a horse needs a trim, and what a good trim looks like. That's something every horse owner should know!!
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post #89 of 100 Old 08-05-2011, 07:06 PM
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I have another. People who have no respect for their lesson or their instructor, like the girl who leases the other half of my horse.

A minute ago there was this huge rant about all the horrible things this girl has done and how much controversy she has caused and such, but I'm just going to sum it up in a list: (basically anticipate a rant)

1. She comes late to every lesson. My trainer can't give her a lesson when she comes. She doesn't even speak respectfully to the trainer. She constantly is talking back to her. My trainer tells her she can't ride at 3PM when its really hot. She needs to come early while its still cooler. Never happens.
2. Because she doesn't show up on time, I ride at my scheduled time, and then she shows up and wants to ride. I am more advanced then her and do a good amount of work during lessons, so this horse is exhausted by the time she gets there.
3. The girl can't ride. She can barely get him to trot (which is hard for me, but it doesn't take me 4 laps around the arena!) and doesn't get lessons. Lessons do help her a lot.
4. He hates her so much that he won't even walk forward for her unless she's in a lesson and I got off of him a minute before she got on.
5. The WORST PART is that now all this stupid laziness and disrespect is ruining all of my hard work! After riding this horse super consistently for a week and a half, I finally got him to the point where he was a great ride. The trot was quicker to pick up, his gaits were adjustable, he was fairly sensitive to my leg, and he wouldn't pitch a fit (ramming into the wall, backing up, etc) every time I asked for the trot. Now he's back to all his bad habits because of two really bad rides by this girl.
6. One last thing, I promise! When she does come late to the lesson, it takes her forever to get ready and get on, so by the time the lesson starts its usually about 2 and a half hours after the time it was supposed to start. That paired with the fact that she doesn't even care about the horse that she's paying half the board and half the care for, its pretty frustrating.

Can you tell I'm frustrated? I'm frustrated. Multiply this frustration by ten and you have my trainer.

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post #90 of 100 Old 08-05-2011, 07:25 PM
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People who buy your horse, let it get to looking like sh*t, let it run out of hay for a month, let it get away with stuff while riding, And then goes on to say she's a completely different horse now. And how much better she is. Yep solo much better, I placed at every show on her. And shes just now getting 3D times consistently, with my help now that she's gotten off her high horse- .-
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