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post #1 of 84 Old 04-11-2012, 05:47 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation Please everyone sign!

Okay I came across this when watch Chelsea Lately and it absolutely horrified me… it's about the NYC horse carriages! Please sign the petition to stop this and help raise money for the alternative green car! For more info and to sign go to New Yorkers for Clean, Livable & Safe Streets (NYCLASS)
i swear i signed this 6 different times!
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post #2 of 84 Old 04-11-2012, 06:14 PM
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I did!!!!
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post #3 of 84 Old 04-11-2012, 06:25 PM
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Horses do not belong in a congested, urban setting where they are constantly breathing exhaust and sharing the streets with cars, buses and taxis. It is even more upsetting to know that during their non-working hours these horses are confined to tiny stables and do not enjoy access to the open space that such large animals require.

I love New York but seeing such an inhumane industry continue to operate here disappoints me. Please consider phasing out the horse-drawn carriages and replacing them with a more humane, sustainable option such as the electric vintage-replica tour car proposed in the NYC Council bill, Intro 86.

just bassed on these two paragraphs is not enough to make me sign...
one reason is because if exhaust and such is so bad that we need to ban animals then hell we need to ban humans as well since we would be breathing the same air.

two if you actually go to see there stable the only difference between these stables and any other is that the horse have to go up a ramp to get to there stalls.. the stalls are the same size as normal stalls 12x12 and 12x14 and so forth to keep the animal comfortable

three if its so dangerous for horses with drivers constantly with them to work in the city its obvisously to dangerous for children who are unsupervised to be in the city...

four - all the horses are sent to a private farm where they get a day off and have time romping in the field which is more than i can say for some horses at private facilities who don't have access to any turnout

when they come up with other reasons then the ones stated in these paragraphs then maybe i would consider signing..but i doubt it since these horses have a job, give people jobs in this rough economy and get better treatment then some backyard horses i don't see an issue with having them in the city.
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post #4 of 84 Old 04-11-2012, 06:39 PM
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I'm sure these horse's have it pretty good. They are the income. Why treat your money maker bad? I'm pretty sure it takes some time to train horses to carriage drive.. so why would they treat them badly?
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post #5 of 84 Old 04-11-2012, 06:43 PM
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I work in NYC. I just went out to get a soda. Every night about this time the carriage horses are heading up to Central Park. Tonight I watched 3 go by 5' from where I was standing. Two beautiful Percherons and what looked like a Morgan. All were trotting along happily up 10th Avenue along with the traffic, backs swinging and tails flowing. Please do some extensive research before jumping on the first ignorant based bandwagon that comes along.
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post #6 of 84 Old 04-11-2012, 06:54 PM
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not to mention, that is this is boycotted those horses will have no job, their owners will need to get rid of them and slaughter will be a definite possibility for them. Better to work toward improving the condiitions for them at the stalls.
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post #7 of 84 Old 04-11-2012, 06:55 PM
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This just BURNS me up. Leave it to PETA to turn something like this completely around. I read an article a few years ago about the lives of the carriage horses in NYC, and let me tell you, it is FAR from what the video depicts. These people aren't going to abuse and starve their source of income.
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post #8 of 84 Old 04-11-2012, 07:03 PM
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I agree that horses shouldn't be worked for hours and not fed but if they are being taken care of then I don't see a problem with it. Its no different than a horse that is trained yo drive for classes. Think about how much goes into that. What about the fine horse officers that work in NYC and our other great cities.
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I agree that horses shouldn't be worked for hours and not fed but if they are being taken care of then I don't see a problem with it. Posted via Mobile Device
Again, the information is completely incorrect. When a horse gets done walking a customer around the park, they pull into the back of the line like a cab at the airport and wait for their next customer. While they are standing there chilling out, their driver provides them with a bucket of grain and a bucket of water. I'm surprised some of these horses are not overweight. The eat very very well.
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post #10 of 84 Old 04-11-2012, 08:14 PM
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I've seen this video. I watched it with Lea Michele's poorly informed commentary and then I muted it. I suggest all of you do the same. The first time, you'll see "poor, abused ickle ponehs", then after muting, you'll see horses doing their job with absolutely nothing wrong.
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