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    04-11-2012, 09:14 PM
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    04-11-2012, 09:18 PM
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Green Broke
They tried to go after Disney for their carriage horses a few years ago when I was still working there. I hear a LOT of people complaining or saying how sorry they feel for the horses there, yada yada yada... they work all day long, yada yada. But people only know what they see, and if they don't work for that company, they don't know what really goes on behind the scenes.

I'm NOT saying the New York Carriage Horse issues isn't bad, it is. But I also know Peta blows things way out of proportion and if they had their way, people wouldn't even RIDE a horse.

BTW, the Disney horses... well they only work 2 hours a day, 4 days a week. The rest of their time they are in a big dry lot with their buddies being... well, lazy horses doing the same things our horses do in their stables. It kind of makes me wonder about Carriage horses not only in NY but Kansas City, LA, and all of the other places you see them..... do they really work for hours or are they rotated out too.

I think some things just merit a little more in depth investigation. Are the horses REALLY worked all darn day? Do they never have days off? And yes, those stalls look like DEATH TRAPS....that DOES need to be fixed. But we also have to think of things like where will these horses go if/when they are put out of work? What happens to them then???

One last question, if their life is really THAT bad, why do they seem fit and healthy instead of poorly conditioned and emaciated??
     
    04-11-2012, 09:34 PM
  #13
Foal
Wont be signing
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    04-11-2012, 09:48 PM
  #14
Yearling
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Again, the information is completely incorrect. When a horse gets done walking a customer around the park, they pull into the back of the line like a cab at the airport and wait for their next customer. While they are standing there chilling out, their driver provides them with a bucket of grain and a bucket of water. I'm surprised some of these horses are not overweight. The eat very very well.
I didn't sign. Just summed up pretty much the general statement on how every horse should be treated.
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    04-11-2012, 09:51 PM
  #15
Green Broke
*shakes head* -- anyone who would blindly sign ANY petition without doing their own, independent, research into the issue is not someone who's opinion I can take seriously.
     
    04-11-2012, 10:15 PM
  #16
Foal
There are several issues that PETA pursues that I agree with, but this one is ridiculous. The only questionable thing I saw was one horse standing in a regular tie stall (not a box stall) and he looked a little dirty. If these horses were truly being abused, the whole industry would have come to a halt a long time ago.

I agree that most of these horses are probably treated a lot better than some of the backyard horses here in Texas. If people want to concentrate on animal abuse, they need to look beyond the bored carriage horse standing in front of their office building. There are horses in this country that have much worse jobs or no care at all.
     
    04-11-2012, 10:19 PM
  #17
Trained
I would also like to point out that this petition is coming from the same organization that tried to have Congress amend the 13th Amendment (Slavery) to include animals so they could force SeaWorld to free their orcas. Just a thought.
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    04-11-2012, 10:21 PM
  #18
Trained
Hey, if PETA is so pissed about the living conditions, maybe they can offer to purchase some land in Manhattan to give the horses larger stalls. Lets see how much they care about doing that after they find out how much $$ that would set them back. Those straight stalls will start looking like spacious paddocks.
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    04-11-2012, 10:21 PM
  #19
Foal
The reason why I'm against this is there was horse carriages where I live until last year. And these horses were not in the best condition and on top of that 5 were kill in 1 month because they were hit by cars. I'm not saying absolutely every horse is treated horribly but I just don't like the idea of horses walking through heavy traffic…that was my biggest issue. I donto even riding my horses on the roads because I've seen too many careless drivers
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    04-11-2012, 10:35 PM
  #20
Showing
Are you talking about the Amish buggies? They have NOTHING to do whatsoever with NYC carriage horses.

I won't even get into what I think of people trying to impose their own beliefs on a religious sect that's known for hard work, and just asks to be allowed to live their lives without persecution.
     



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