Please tell me I'm stupidly paranoid... - The Horse Forum
 8Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 24 Old 12-23-2012, 08:31 PM Thread Starter
Yearling
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Nine Mile Falls, Washington
Posts: 1,130
• Horses: 0
Please tell me I'm stupidly paranoid...

So I am gunning to purchase the tennassee walking horse, chance. Once I get my car fixed up, get some money on the side and more hours at work, I feel I can properly call myself "owner" and pay for him.

But there is a hitch. I have to talk to my instructor because he was bought by the festical and was intended as a horse for the festival. But he's not used often, and needs some medical attention to remove some proud flesh that formed before we got him. I am not going to waste my efforts financially and physically on a horse I do not own. Not if it may cost me a bit of bank here or there in the future. As much as I love to help and love horses, I just can't do it.

Anyway... I worry there may be a caveat or two. I'm fine with the idea of keeping him there, in fact I want him to, and him partaking in festival. I would be delighted if he turned into a great show horse. But what's got me running in circles is the idea that he may say that I have to let others ride him.

I have no qualms about that, except for a 15 year old disrespectful twat. She runs horses ragged and does not pay attention to what she does. I have zero trust in her abilities and her respecting me. I fear that once I own Chance, that will not change. I have (and still am) working so hard to get him calm, less fearful and more responsive on the ground. Her idea of a calm horse is running them around till they tire. That's her idea of a calm horse.

I fear if I tell her, as a rightful owner, that I will be ignored, and I will have no say. In fact, I worry in general that I will be treated as if I have no say over what is done because I'm just dishing out money and effort and simply a money bag to use.

He's my first horse, I'm a first time owner. While the actual owner agrees to letting me keep him, I need to speak with the equestrian team leader to see if it is a viable choice. I was told he has no qualms about it, but even so, I worry.

So... Please just tell me I'm being stupid and that I shouldn't have to worry.
Deschutes is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 24 Old 12-23-2012, 08:39 PM
Started
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,793
• Horses: 0
I don't completely understand you but the bottom line is if he is your horse and you are paying for his upkeep 100%, there are no strings. Period. All your concerns must be addressed upfront and in writing if there is any grey area between you, the owner, the barn..

And no you are not paranoid. Stranger things can happen when you don't have things worked out prior to buying a horse.

Last edited by Left Hand Percherons; 12-23-2012 at 08:41 PM.
Left Hand Percherons is offline  
post #3 of 24 Old 12-23-2012, 08:40 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Washington, USA.
Posts: 6,634
• Horses: 2
I don't understand...

The horse is not yours, and you do not have the means to purchase him right now, or any time soon for that matter. Correct?

If and when you do purchase this horse, it is yours to do with however you want. If you want to allow this "festival" to continue to use him, that's your business. I wouldn't let anyone use my horse, but that's just me.

So your main concern is that this girl will ride the horse after you buy him and continue to let this festival use him? It's your horse. You can let anyone ride or make sure someone doesn't ride as much as you want. It's your horse.
Posted via Mobile Device
Solon likes this.
riccil0ve is offline  
post #4 of 24 Old 12-23-2012, 08:43 PM
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Northeast Nebraska
Posts: 140
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deschutes View Post
So I am gunning to purchase the tennassee walking horse, chance. Once I get my car fixed up, get some money on the side and more hours at work, I feel I can properly call myself "owner" and pay for him.

But there is a hitch. I have to talk to my instructor because he was bought by the festical and was intended as a horse for the festival. But he's not used often, and needs some medical attention to remove some proud flesh that formed before we got him. I am not going to waste my efforts financially and physically on a horse I do not own. Not if it may cost me a bit of bank here or there in the future. As much as I love to help and love horses, I just can't do it.

Anyway... I worry there may be a caveat or two. I'm fine with the idea of keeping him there, in fact I want him to, and him partaking in festival. I would be delighted if he turned into a great show horse. But what's got me running in circles is the idea that he may say that I have to let others ride him.

I have no qualms about that, except for a 15 year old disrespectful twat. She runs horses ragged and does not pay attention to what she does. I have zero trust in her abilities and her respecting me. I fear that once I own Chance, that will not change. I have (and still am) working so hard to get him calm, less fearful and more responsive on the ground. Her idea of a calm horse is running them around till they tire. That's her idea of a calm horse.

I fear if I tell her, as a rightful owner, that I will be ignored, and I will have no say. In fact, I worry in general that I will be treated as if I have no say over what is done because I'm just dishing out money and effort and simply a money bag to use.

He's my first horse, I'm a first time owner. While the actual owner agrees to letting me keep him, I need to speak with the equestrian team leader to see if it is a viable choice. I was told he has no qualms about it, but even so, I worry.

So... Please just tell me I'm being stupid and that I shouldn't have to worry.
All I got from that is you don't own this horse, but you don't want some other girl to ride him. Why doesn't the owner of this horse/festival? Make this girl shape up?
gogaited is offline  
post #5 of 24 Old 12-23-2012, 08:47 PM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Indiana
Posts: 4,378
• Horses: 2
If/when this horse becomes yours, you will be able to dictate who does or does not ride the horse - until then, it's not really a good use of your time to spend it worrying about the what if's.
themacpack is offline  
post #6 of 24 Old 12-23-2012, 11:29 PM
Started
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 2,431
• Horses: 1
I think it's fairly straight forward guys.
She's worried that ONCE she buys the horse she wont have a say in who rides the horse. Which shouldn't be true- shouldn't being the key word, but I know a lot of BO's who will take advantage of new owners, especially younger owners (though I don't know the OP's age). I suggest getting some sort of contract written up, so you have it in writing WHO is permitted to ride your horse. Take some extra measures to make sure your horse is only being exercised when you are exercising your horse or when you are permitting others to ride, that way if someone is violating your contract you have some sort of grounds to back yourself up, things in writing. That said, I wouldn't let everyone else ride and exclude this one girl- that could appear as an attack. If you are okay with others riding, make sure you arrange everything with the people who will be riding, only let a couple other people ride, and if she approaches you to ask if she can ride simply say you have too many people riding for you, or that she just isn't the right fit right now.
alexischristina is offline  
post #7 of 24 Old 12-24-2012, 12:46 AM Thread Starter
Yearling
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Nine Mile Falls, Washington
Posts: 1,130
• Horses: 0
I should clarify. My apologies.

I do not own him yet, but my main concern is what happens afterwards., which is whatever deal or something I may have to work out. I have not spoken to my instructor yet about what is planned.

What I fear is that I won't have the back up or support to say no. I'm a big softy, and I don't want to appear as a snotty witch.
Deschutes is offline  
post #8 of 24 Old 12-24-2012, 12:51 AM
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,712
• Horses: 0
Buy the horse and take him somewhere else if you can....this way you will enter a new barn as the owner and the horse will be seen as 'the new horse'.....I was just commenting in another thread how I shuffled backwards politely and didn't want to buy (a horse I really liked!) from my BO, because of the hovering and such. I recall another girl years ago buyng a horse from her BO and when she moved out of the barn and took HER horse there was a huge fit from the BO....
Bluebird likes this.
Muppetgirl is offline  
post #9 of 24 Old 12-24-2012, 01:41 AM Thread Starter
Yearling
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Nine Mile Falls, Washington
Posts: 1,130
• Horses: 0
I like where he is, and I'm thinking if he's allowed to be a part of ren faire, I won't have to pay board. He's lived there for two years, he's comfy. But if I need to, I can probably work it out with my lease owner and see if she will board him with her herd.

He isn't ridden by too many others, thankfully, but my boyfriend wants to use him as a heralds mount. If she asks, I was thinking of telling her straight up that until she can prove to me she will respect what I say, and matures, she has no riding privileges on him.

But that may be too blunt. I'm twenty, but I don't know "everything" there is to ownership, but I'm trying, so I'm worried someone might say to do something, and it backfiring. I'm overly cautious and double check with research whenever I'm told something.
Deschutes is offline  
post #10 of 24 Old 12-24-2012, 01:49 AM Thread Starter
Yearling
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Nine Mile Falls, Washington
Posts: 1,130
• Horses: 0
Edit button doesn't want to work on my phone currently

¤there aren't too many who want to ride him thankfully. Except that girl. Whenever he is brought out its like she has to ride him. Her reasoning is because she likes difficult horses.

I do like the idea of a contract. I guess I feel so wishy washy because I really like the festival owners and my instructor. I just don't want to sudden be so stiff and rigid suddenly when they have done so much for me. I don't think I'd have to worry about the festival owner so much, as just pressure from the equestrian team. She (the owner) has already told me that I can make whatever decision I want with him and no one can say otherwise.
Deschutes is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Amount of hay - am I just being paranoid? Hoofprints in the Sand Horse Nutrition 17 07-03-2012 12:26 PM
I'm a paranoid freak. Easter Horse Health 4 04-05-2012 10:19 AM
I think someone has been beating my horse, or maybe I'm paranoid?? Cinnys Whinny Horse Health 54 02-11-2011 09:46 AM
Paranoid Horse mommy needs help please! Velvet Horse Breeding 9 12-12-2008 01:13 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome