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        01-09-2013, 02:22 PM
      #21
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by jamesqf    
    Yeah, I should have looked more closely at the linked picture. Bad me What I did was in a slant load trailer, where the horse has room to walk in, turn around, and walk out again head first (and won't trample you in the process). I've never used a straight load, so the only thing I'm sure will carry over is the bit about staying calm
    LOL! THAT part will carry over for sure in any trailer! And is frequently waaaaay easier said than done.
         
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        01-09-2013, 06:42 PM
      #22
    Green Broke
    Thanks for the replies

    Just a little update spent 30 minutes with him this morning. I got him with his two front feet in the trailer, I just need to work on him backing off slowly and calmly before I try to get him in any further. I'm letting him have a litttle break now and will work with him again soon.
         
        01-09-2013, 08:51 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
    Update:

    Just finished my third session with him and he is progressing much quicker then I expected. During the second session I thought we had hit a wall when he would walk up the ramp but wasn't willing to actually step into the trailer.

    The third session started similarly but it ended with him walking calmly without hesitation into the trailer so he was almost completely in there. Only his back feet were hanging out on the top of the ramp, I was in his way so he couldn't actually come in any further. He also backed out calmly and slowly.

    I was expecting it to take much longer then this, I am very happy with his progress.
         
        01-09-2013, 11:51 PM
      #24
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by apachewhitesox    
    Update:

    Just finished my third session with him and he is progressing much quicker then I expected. During the second session I thought we had hit a wall when he would walk up the ramp but wasn't willing to actually step into the trailer.

    The third session started similarly but it ended with him walking calmly without hesitation into the trailer so he was almost completely in there. Only his back feet were hanging out on the top of the ramp, I was in his way so he couldn't actually come in any further. He also backed out calmly and slowly.

    I was expecting it to take much longer then this, I am very happy with his progress.
    Excellent!

    One thing I like to do if they decide they don't want to move forward is to back out, walk back up but stop before they hit the spot where they balked and not let them go forward, that time. Then back out again and walk on in the next time, usually makes 'em feel like it's their idea. LOL!

    He's going to be a seasoned old hand at this trailer stuff before you know it. Good JoB!
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        01-10-2013, 12:31 AM
      #25
    Green Broke
    He was still hesitating a little bit when he went to step from the ramp into the trailer occasionally but otherwise mostly followed in great.

    The only problems now that I'm going to work on some more this afternoon are he wants to back out as soon as he is in the trailer. He also doesn't always back out straight and freaks out if the grounds a bit further down then he expected because he went off the edge a bit.
         
        01-10-2013, 12:43 AM
      #26
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by apachewhitesox    
    He was still hesitating a little bit when he went to step from the ramp into the trailer occasionally but otherwise mostly followed in great.

    The only problems now that I'm going to work on some more this afternoon are he wants to back out as soon as he is in the trailer. He also doesn't always back out straight and freaks out if the grounds a bit further down then he expected because he went off the edge a bit.
    Concentrate on getting him to back out straight, but let him back out as much as he wants. At first he's going to go in and zooom, go right back out, that's ok. He's got to learn that he's not going to get eaten and that it's safe to go in and stay. Once he zooms back out 10 or 15 times, he'll get tired of it and he'll stop for a minute or 2, praise him to high heaven, give him a treat, anything to keep him standing calmly for a minute or 2. Then back him out. Once he'll come in and stand for a couple of minutes without getting in a hurry to get out, then you can give him a larger treat, but not a whole meal, in there so he stays say for 5-10 mins. Then before he gets anxious, even before he is finished with his snack, back him out and praise him for being a good boy. Keep doing that, so that he KNOWS there's food in there if he goes in and stands like a good boy. Timing is the key at that point.
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        01-10-2013, 12:56 AM
      #27
    Green Broke
    That is kind of what I have been doing I haven't stopped him from backing out at all. I simply try keep him calm and straight when he decides to back out. The more he realises he isn't stuck in there the less he seems to mind being in the trailer.

    I just worry when he chucks his head up during his freak outs because I don't want him to hit the roof.
         
        01-10-2013, 01:06 AM
      #28
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by apachewhitesox    
    That is kind of what I have been doing I haven't stopped him from backing out at all. I simply try keep him calm and straight when he decides to back out. The more he realises he isn't stuck in there the less he seems to mind being in the trailer.

    I just worry when he chucks his head up during his freak outs because I don't want him to hit the roof.
    That's what I'm talking about with timing. You want to catch his anxiety before it hits the level where he throws his head up. It's not pretty when they catch their head just right and split their head open, bleeds a lot and leaves a nasty scar. The idea is bring him in, and send him out, YOU need to control his feet and keep his concentration on you.

    So, walk up, get 2 feet in the body of the trailer, stop, count to 3 if he'll wait that long, back straight out. Go back up do it again, and again and again, until he doesn't want to do the head tossing any more, because he figures out he doesn't need to. You control every step he takes in and out and you control the timing. That way he learns: You're the boss, always and He can trust YOU to not put him in a position where he needs to panic.

    If that means you walk up the ramp, 2 steps into the trailer, halt forward motion and cue him to back out, then that's what you do for a while. I'm guessing you don't have a head bumper which would be a great thing to protect him, but you can do it without it, YOU just have to be sharper about reading his body language.
         
        01-10-2013, 03:15 AM
      #29
    Green Broke
    Thanks heaps for the tips along the way

    He didn't chuck his head up after the first couple of sessions in the morning I was just worried about it later on when I had him fully in the trailer.

    By the end of this afternoon I had him standing in the trailer calmly for 5-10 mins straight a few times. I wish I had gotten a picture. The last time with every thing done up but the doors still open. So Happy!!

    Tomorrow will be the test drive to see how he goes, hopefully we can take him to the trails down the road.
         
        01-10-2013, 06:53 AM
      #30
    Foal
    There are different approaches to how a horse needs to be taught to load, but it becomes an issue of necessity. The horse needs to go in when owner asks. My horse was trailering well since he was a year old and then last year decided that he wasn't going in (5 years old)...testing me if you will. After a 45 min session of round pen work, of constantly changing direction any time he pulled against the rope and sending him back off (which he tried to fight as well), he was finally listening. We headed to the trailer to ask again to load and he started his routine of backing up. Which caused him to have to move his feet more again (we sent him round a few more times). Then we stopped and asked him to load, and he hesitated to come forward, but thought about it and then decided to back again, so he got to move his feet round again. We stopped and asked him again to load up. He went forward that time and put his front feet up and stood there huffing...and we said nothing to him, just let him stand and relax. Then asked him to move foward some more and he popped in there like nobody's business, lol. And boy did we make a little fuss over him with some calm "good boy pats" and rubs. I headed home (we were at a friends home). Then we loaded the next day just to keep it fresh. He backed away the first time I asked, so I sent his feet to moving. We went round twice for about 5 minutes and then I asked a third time to load and he popped right in. The last few times we've asked him to load, he's gone in willingly. For him it was the process of making it worse to be outside the trailer than inside. He loves food, but I do not want to encourage that because most of the time we do not run around with food on hand. I need my horses to do what I ask when I ask it.
         

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