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    06-06-2012, 11:40 AM
  #1
Weanling
Problems Leading my horse!

I have never had any problems leading my horse till 2 days ago... All of a sudden she litterally pulls me where she wants to go if there is grass there! She even pulls my trainer around! He thinks the first problem is because she is in heat, but she has never been this bad when she is in heat.... Another one of his theries is she is getting spoiled because she is getting out on the grass a few hours a day... He just puts her out with all of his horses. He wants me to use a chain and I don't want to but it's a way where I can get her to point A to point B... I just don't get it that used to be like the least of my problems!
What could I do anyone have any ideas?
     
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    06-06-2012, 01:33 PM
  #2
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by EquestrianCowgirl4    
He wants me to use a chain and I don't want to but it's a way where I can get her to point A to point B... I just don't get it that used to be like the least of my problems!
What could I do anyone have any ideas?
If using a chain resolves the issue, why not?

I have a training horse that was the same way when he came. Owner always let him graze when he was in hand. He thought he could do the same thing with anyone else. It's dangerous when a horse dives out of your hand while being led.

Another option would be to carry a crop/whip/bat/stick and pop him when he pulls. Then you have the potential situation where he will leap forward.

Do some in hand work with the chain in the arena where there is no grass to tempt. Walk, stop. Walk, stop. Walk, stop. Once he is stopping when you stop and walking when you walk - with no pressure on the lead, take him out to where he normally dives for the grass. Repeat until he no longer looks at the grass, and then the cahin can come off.
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    06-06-2012, 08:34 PM
  #3
Foal
I'd use the shank, you'll only need a time or two most likely.
     
    06-06-2012, 08:42 PM
  #4
Showing
I would spank that horse silly if he tried to yank me around because they're stronger! NOT a good thing for a horse to realize!!

You could use a chain, or you could put them in a rope halter, or you could carry a crop or smack them on their hiney with the popper of the leadrope. Do NOT let them do this to you!
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    06-06-2012, 10:16 PM
  #5
Weanling
I agree with Sky, use a crob or the end of your rope. That is a really bad habit and it is annoying! Act fast and be firm! If not the horse will always win and it will be also in other situations!
     
    06-06-2012, 10:58 PM
  #6
Yearling
My horse tries this on a semi-regular basis. To deal with it, I lead him in a rope halter (that's what I use anyway, not just for this), and I pay close attention to where he's carrying his head. I realized that my boy will dip his head a couple of times, and if I do nothing, he takes advantage and sheers off to eat grass, and will try to drag me along. So I hold the lead rope fairly close to the halter (maybe 1 foot, 1.5 foot from the attachment point to the halter) and if he dips his head, I give it a little pop up to let him know I'm paying attention. At this point, that's usually all I have to do. But on the way to getting to where this is all I have to do, he'd be persistent and eventually try to yank his head down. I don't like to get in a yanking contest with him, so I keep the *other* end of the lead rope (the end with the leather popper on it) nice and loose, and if he dips his head again, I just keep walking and shoot that leather end of the lead rope out behind me to pop him on the butt. Not hard, just *there*. On the other hand, if he yanks me, he gets a good solid pop on the butt with the lead rope, and once I have his attention, he has to do some backing up and small circles. It's got to be totally consistent. Now we're to the point where he knows that I will hand graze him but only in certain areas, and I give him a signal that it's time to hand graze.

He still tries once in a while, but as I said, the way that usually plays out is he dips his head, I pop the halter up lightly, and that's the end of it.

I should also say that my boy is Mister Pushy, and his former owner had him in a chain shank, but that I haven't had to use any such thing. Regular groundwork, firm boundaries, and consistent reinforcement of those boundaries is key with my guy.
     
    06-06-2012, 11:27 PM
  #7
Super Moderator
The first few times she does this, you really throw the lead line right up under her jaw. YOu snake it back and forth , so it clanks up against her jaw, and only stop when she lifts her head. The milisecond she starts to lower her head, you start the snaking the line at her head, and growl or hiss at her at the same time. Pretty soon, you will only have to hiss at her. But, you must be 100% consistent. YOu must decide NO GRAZING EVER WHEN ON THE LEADLINE.

She can only graze either when off line , or if you must have a line on her, then let it drag on the ground . Make sure she knows how to release herslef if she steps on the line, so she wont' panic. This is something she should know anyway.
     
    06-07-2012, 10:10 AM
  #8
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
I would spank that horse silly if he tried to yank me around because they're stronger! NOT a good thing for a horse to realize!!

You could use a chain, or you could put them in a rope halter, or you could carry a crop or smack them on their hiney with the popper of the leadrope. Do NOT let them do this to you!
As tempting as that is - if they bolt forward - or worse - towards you - it is creating a worse situation. Then he will learn he can get away by pulling.

The chain on the lead stops the pulling and the forward motion. Used correctly, it is a training aid and can be removed once the training is over.
     
    06-07-2012, 10:18 AM
  #9
Showing
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Originally Posted by mls    
As tempting as that is - if they bolt forward - or worse - towards you - it is creating a worse situation. Then he will learn he can get away by pulling
You have to have a plan in mind before you go swatting the horse. I always direct their body away from me before I even attempt to do it. Haven't had any run into me yet or kick at me, etc. It's the element of surprise that you go for.

Honestly I would make them do something before they bobbed down to get grass. Even if it means in-hand trotting or circles or something on lead. Some horses just NEED their mind on something at all times or they'll get fussy.
     
    06-07-2012, 10:12 PM
  #10
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
I would spank that horse silly if he tried to yank me around because they're stronger! NOT a good thing for a horse to realize!!

You could use a chain, or you could put them in a rope halter, or you could carry a crop or smack them on their hiney with the popper of the leadrope. Do NOT let them do this to you!
Yes I used a rope halter instead a chain and she was just fine. She tried once then I backed her up and she did exactly what I wanted!
     

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