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    05-18-2011, 03:44 PM
  #1
Foal
Push Button vs. Attitude Problem

Okay guys; who here likes their push button ponies and who likes the horses with a naughty streak and attitude problems? Include why and if your own horse/ the one you ride is either of the two!

Personally, the latter. I would honestly die of boredom if my horse was push button. As weird as it sounds, I actually enjoy having to be constantly alert of what my horse is doing when I lead him. I like having to control a spunky horse into jumps or reminding him to concentrate when he's being schooled. I don't like having to constantly fight him when cantering on a hack, that is one area I'd like him to be perfect about.

It's more fun having a horse that is a bit difficult, it helps you learn, in my opinion.

That's what I think, so how about you?
     
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    05-18-2011, 04:09 PM
  #2
Started
My Arabian gelding has to be engaged at all times or he will look for things to booger at! He is definitely making me a better rider and I really like riding him! My QH gelding is older and is pretty much push button. When I just want to relax, I ride him and it's a nice change. Especially when you just want to veg out and enjoy the scenery!
     
    05-18-2011, 04:52 PM
  #3
Started
For me I like both =D

On my "Eh" days when I just want to relax and chill I ride Phantom because he's push button. He's just so easy going, does what I ask, and never takes a wrong step sometimes in the field I just jump on bareback and let him walk us where he wants to go. Also I normally ride him after I ride TC to come down from the craziness which is TC. Haha

And other days when I'm feeling a bit crazy (which is a lot of the time haha) I ride TC. He's got a huge attitude problem and if I don't ride him for a few days he bucks lol. Not get off my back bucks but haha look what I can do kinda bucks. He definitely keeps me on my toes. He's also a bit more spooky than Phantom and I pay a ton more attention riding him than if I was riding Phantom.

Phantom's my teddy bear and TC is my devil horse haha Love them both!!
     
    05-18-2011, 04:56 PM
  #4
Yearling
I like horses with issues/attitude problems but I like to get on a push button horse every once in a while to remind myself what I'm aiming for with my training. I too think I would get bored if I didn't have to stay on top of things with my horse.
     
    05-18-2011, 05:07 PM
  #5
Super Moderator
My mare is basically both! When I need/want her to be spunky, she has no issues being horrifically silly, but when calm push button-ness is needed she's right there too. I guess you could say that she's a fiery pushy button...If you ask right she will do anything for you but if you ask wrong, well, you're just going to have a super boring ride. Haha And maybe why I like her being rather push button-y is that it took me 3 years of riding bucks, rears, and other general crazy to get her here... I'm to the reward stage and I'm ready for it. Haha

Personally, she's my favorite kind of horse. I like being able to trust my horse to behave correctly (and I don't mind spending the time to train a horse to understand what I want) and I like feeling safe while on horseback but I don't mind having a "conversation" with my mount. She can question why I'm asking her to do something but I don't want her to blantantly refuse to do something just because. I don't mind her doing silly stuff either, as long as she's being silly in a way that's not going to kill us both.

In my mind, a horse with an attitude problem is one that behaves in a "to heck with what you want, I'm going over here/doing this and there's nothing you can do to stop me" way. I hate hate hate horses like that. It makes me sad since horses aren't born that way, they're made that way through rough treatment and they're almost impossible to get back from that point because they've learned to not care what their rider wants.
In my book, most horses do not have attitude problems. I know a lot of misunderstood horses that are labeled as having attitude problems, but with the correct handling those issues would be gone, just no body cares to look at what's going on from a point of view other than "this horse is bad" or "this horse is soooo dumb" etc.
     
    05-18-2011, 05:15 PM
  #6
Weanling
I like the push buttons. I like getting on a horse and just relaxing, not having to worry about what shenanigans it's going to get into today. Horses are my stress relief and a horse that I can't trust is not exactly relieving stress. My mares can be a little silly when they get worked up, but I know that I'm never going to get killed being around them. The crazies are fun once in a while to help you improve your riding, but I would never, ever buy one as a personal, "pleasure" horse.
     
    05-19-2011, 03:09 AM
  #7
Green Broke
Well for me depending what the attitude problem is I would rather that just because it keeps you on your toes. Two of mine are like that in different ways. One being easily excited and very forward, the other incredibly lazy and easily bored (he has tried everything under the sun to avoid doing something he doesn't like just to see if it would work). A push button for me most of the time would just get me bored because they do everything when they are supposed. Not to make it sound like I don't like push button horses becuase I do love to ride them sometimes when I just want to relax and not worry about something every two seconds. My little pepper is almost push button though she can have her silly days (even they aren't really bad). Also I would aim for my horses to become kind of push button to an extent.
     
    05-19-2011, 05:32 AM
  #8
Yearling
Attidude all the way!!

I honeslty get so bored when horses arnt naughty! I like hot with spunk and attidude and even issues/problems. Then at least there is actually something to work on! I suppoes its how I've been taught, I've grown up on naughty/green horses.

My first horse was a green broken (i think had been 6 weeks under saddle) and recently cut shetlend his name was Quantas. He gave me alot of flack but taught me to ride! I think I had 2 push button ponies after him for only a few months each because I out rode them quickly and got bored.

Then I got a 11.3 Arabian riding pony, who was phsycotic! And reaallly spoooky and used to bolt big time. You couldnt ride him in the wind or rain because he reared and bolted, and even on a good day you could garuntee he would spook at the purple flower he had passed 20 times because he changed rein. I loved him though! I thought he was pretty hot-stuff because he would get all sweaty and prance like a "racehorse" so it didnt pass my mind he was even slightly "dangerous".

My next pony a 12.2 Welsh/Aussie pony I test rode him and he bucked me off, I got up dusted myself off and huged him and said i'd take him! We used to have massive arguments I don't think I've had a horse I've clashed personalities with more.

After him I got a Riding Pony that honeslty was the most amazing pony i'd had, I had been riding him since I was 6. There were only 3 show riders in Australia that would ride him and I was the only kid. He reared for attention and was the deffinition of really hot! I think his huge movement added to most kids being afraid of him. He was only 13hh.

Then I got Jack, who is a whole new story and it has been the worst and hardest of the lot but he turned out to be the best. A green broken 14hh Connemara who had a bad habbit of blind bolting and has caused me ending up in hospital more than once. Now we have gone on to win ALOT!

But all these horses have gone on to be sold as AWSOME childs ponies that were bombproof, Persuing with them was the key. People gave up to quickly and they earnt a reputation as being "naughty ponies (bad eggs)" but really they were just a challange to get something amazing. I kept Jack though, im teaching a 5yr old girl to ride on him.

I suppose I always had a desire for training, so I had an attatchment to spunky ponies. I love getting the "underdog" and bringing out there potential! Nothing tickles me more than a naughty pony. I always live by the quote someone once told me "nothing in life is easy, that's what make it even more worthwhile in the first placce"
     
    05-19-2011, 01:32 PM
  #9
Foal
Completely agree with those of you who say you like a horse with attitude! It's SO much more fun and really teaches you how to handle a horse. By having a slightly spunky horse, when it comes to easier horses, you can handle them fine because you're used to more.

But I also understand those who like push-button ponies; it is nice getting on a horse and not having to worry about everything. Enjoying the ride is important to some people, and the only way they can enjoy it is by having a calm horse who takes everything in their stride.

My horse is perfect for me because he can be such an ass sometimes, and I like seeing the improvements I can make without erasing his personality completely!
     
    05-19-2011, 02:46 PM
  #10
Weanling
If you get through to an attitude horse you can get a much more rewarding relationship than with a push-button in my opinion. Push button horses will be good for everyone, but if your attitude horse trusts and relies on you then its a totally different feeling. The mare I ride is a typical attitude mare, but she's starting to learn to trust and the rewards have been wonderful. She's being trained to jump (3 wks so far) and i'm the only one she doesn't refuse for. Its never easy riding her, but it's so much more fun =)
     

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