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    10-06-2010, 08:07 AM
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Pushy, arent we?

Ok, I posted this once before but now its becoming a daily ritual. I know how to handle this but really wanted to know if you guys go through this and what you do? K, my yearling is starting to get really pushy. It started out with her being pushy and persistent on getting to my mares grain bucket after she finished her own. My mare is dominant over the filly but so persistent that eventually the mare gives in. So of course I have to step in and keep her away. I didnt realize the extent of her dominance/where she belongs, thing, until 2 days ago, when we fed grain to all the horses. I was so thrown back in shock. We have an arab mare who is Queen, a QH who is second in command, a Morab who is 3rd, my mare 4th, and a Quarab who is 5th. Add the filly who is ?????? Now, when you feed grain to all... look out and stay out of the way. Of course Queen gets what she wants and moves everyone around, but the Morab (Ebony) will only bow down to Queen and the QH mare. Can you believe (no you can't) lol, Ebony did not fight the filly. I was in amazement. She normally would have bit, chased or kicked at anyone not over her. I don't know what is going on here but in a way I don't like it. In a way, at a year old she can definetley handle herself. My only reason for not liking it really is, I think I might have a challenge here when I go to break her. She has gotten mad at me when I push her away from my mare when my mare is eating her grain. I jump on getting after her. I don't care what I have to use but I will make my point. My point being.... she aint going to dominate me!!!!! I do the same thing any other animal would do if a youngin tried to push them around. NOT EXCEPTED! So that being said, do you guys go through this? Have you had any trouble later on trying to break them in any way? Not just saddling and all that jazz. That comes next year, but things on the ground. I am pretty strong when it comes to training and not letting any horse get away with crap. Don't get me wrong. I am not mean in any way. I am firm and gentle at the same time. I learned to behave like a horse. This is the only form of communication they understand from me. Let me know what you do and if you have come across this. Thanks
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    10-06-2010, 09:47 AM
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Just making sure this is working. The thread, I mean. Sorry.
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    10-06-2010, 10:00 AM
You grain all your horses together? I separate mine to grain them, because my grey Arab is a greedy pig and will bolt his down, then try and take someone else's food away from them.

He pretty much only gets a kick or bite for his trouble, but he still persists.

I separate them so Casper doesn't get kicked three ways from Sunday, and the other two can eat their food in peace.

Part of the reason your filly isn't getting knocked into next week is because the herd still sees her as a baby.

Is this something you can train out of her? No. But you can make her respect your authority if the adults won't fight her.

If I'm standing between Casper and another horse, he knows he can't barrel over or around me to pester them. I'm the alpha mare in my herd, and everyone defers to me.
    10-06-2010, 10:12 AM
When horses are loose - they are allowed to be horses. When they are attached to a human via leadrope or bridle, I DEMAND respect.

How a horse acts in a herd is usually quite different from how they act with a human.

As suggested - they should be fed individually so the filly gets what she needs - and only what she needs.
    10-06-2010, 10:25 AM
I hug, kiss, and give treats. A lot. I'd say they are pretty spoiled and even too much. However when I feed it's ABSOLUTELY forbidden for them to push me, chase me, or do anything else dangerous. Also my very alphish qh mare knows it's ABSOLUTELY forbidden to push the paint away from her bucket, pin ears on her or show any other aggressive sign to get her moving away. Even though she eats twice faster. When she's done, she stands quietly next to the paint waiting till paint's done. Same stands for my dogs, BTW. They know if cat decides to eat in their bowl when food is prepared and put on floor - cat has a priority.

I got both mine as unhandled yearlings. It really depends on horse - you have to be more strict with some than others, but at least both mine went through the stage they tried to dominate. Not the fun stage, but you have to deal with it.
    10-06-2010, 10:44 AM
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Ya we feed them together. They are spaced out and we stand near the lower ones to make sure they get what they need. The other horses have respect for us and stay back. That's not the problem. Actually the feeding part isn't the problem. The filly gets the food she needs. Sometimes more than she needs. That's the problem. If the herd sees her as just a baby, why would a dominant horse allow her to pin her ears back, kick out at them? You would think there would be a consequence for being naughty. ??
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    10-20-2010, 12:13 AM
I don't think you will have any trouble with the breaking her out if you do all the necessary sacking her out, training and introducing things, jumping beside her. If you show your dominance, then she will respect you. The other horses like what was said see her as still a baby. Just wait they will figure her out and she will get put in her place. Just keep doing what you are doing, you are doing good.

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