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post #11 of 23 Old 08-15-2012, 09:39 PM
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Oh geez, if you think Montana has too many people, god forbid you go to a coast state.
I personally don't think there are that many in Eastern Montana.
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post #12 of 23 Old 08-15-2012, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BubblesBlue View Post
Oh geez, if you think Montana has too many people, god forbid you go to a coast state.
I personally don't think there are that many in Eastern Montana.
I go to the east coast and/or KY three or four times a year. Yep, they have too people many too!

But back to QHs - I like some types others not so much. It's good to have choices in both conformation and temperment, so I have no complaints with the breed, per se.
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Most ranch horses in NV go back to a QH, draft, TB, Morgan or desert dink( and I mean that with love) cross.

I truely believe in hybrid vigor for sure.
But you can not get hybrid vigor without purebreds.

However the best horse I have ever owned is my Stilts horse who is a purebred QH. He is spectacular. Very easy temperament, willing attitude, athletic, smart, and a pile of cow. He may be small..about 950 lbs, 14.2 wears a size 0 shoe, but he is sound and has no problem pulling a full day making a big circle gathering and roping cattle that dang neat equal his weight and happy to do it.

Matter of fact I have 3 working on 4, if they didn't, we wouldn't own them.

I am afraid you have seen too many QH halter ponies that were never broke and ran on treadmills :)

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Around here, you'd be hard pressed to find a good cowboy that didn't swing his leg over a cow-bred QH every day. Most of what I see are quarter horses, most of them cow or performance bred, and very few fit your description...and those that do were likely bred and/or trained by someone with no brain. I grew up riding nothing but QHs and, while I've seen some crappy ones in other folk's barns, I've never seen that the crappy ones outnumber the crappy horses in other breeds and they don't hold a candle to the amount of really good ones I've seen.

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I need to add that on top of riding ranch horse mutts..tee he...I rode a pile of colts for. Cutting horse, reining and cowhorse trainers. All QHs.

I have rode some outstanding horses that went on to the snaffle bit futurities and was very proud to say that I started. And there were some I wouldn't of gave .15c for a bullet to get rid of. But I think you have that in any breed, no matter what.

I try not to be breed prejudice, but I certainly have my preferences. Breeds are tailored to certain jobs, and the QH is most tailored to mine. However I am not opposed to others.... I would love to own a Spanish Barb, Andalusian or Morgan just for starters :)

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post #16 of 23 Old 08-16-2012, 12:05 AM
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OK, I'm confused. Montana has WAY too many people, but you don't live in ranching country?

Where DO you live? In the middle of a desert, or on a mountain top? <grin>

I am NOT a quarter horse person, so this is just my uneducated guess...but I think what you may be seeing is the same difference you see in the dog world between show dogs (generally brainless but pretty) and actual working dogs.

I know that a lot of halter horses were bred for huge, bulky muscles and teeny tiny feet...that didn't bode well for a good using horse. You won't find many of those working on a ranch.

Then you have the difference between people who look at their horses as pets and over indulge them with resulting rotten behavior, and those who actually use their horses and don't put up with that kind of stuff. This difference you will find in ANY breed. I don't know where you are, or what kind of horses you run into on a regular basis, so I can't really comment. But I wouldn't assume that quarter horses are being ruined any more than I would assume that any other breed is being ruined. They've been very popular in the US for a very long time. I doubt that people who really love them are going to let the breed be ruined.

Of course there are always irresponsible backyard breeders who will breed anythign and call it a breed. (Not that all backyard breeders are irresponsible)...but I think you may end up with a lot of grade horses that look sort of like quarter horses just because of the popularity of the breed.....who knows what's going on with them? Like I said, I have no idea where you are or what you're seeing. There could be lots of explanations.

I'm not a complete idiot--there are parts missing!

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post #17 of 23 Old 08-16-2012, 01:31 AM
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When I think of Quarter Horses I always think of their great temperaments. It's not a guarantee, but most, if not all, Quarter Horses I have met have had a good temperament.

I know the sort your talking about. I don't know much about QH, but there seems to be a few varieties. There are ones that are much lighter who seem almost Thoroughbred-ish, then the sort of standard solider ones, and then the really bulky ones that, to me, look out of proportion.

It could just be that where you live QH are so popular they are just the standard horse. You'll get the people who nothing who own them and they have bad manners and training. You get those sort of people everywhere.
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Originally Posted by HagonNag View Post
OK, I'm confused. Montana has WAY too many people, but you don't live in ranching country?

Where DO you live? In the middle of a desert, or on a mountain top? <grin>
The person who says MT has too many people (me) does in fact live both in the desert and on a mtn., but, yes, does live in ranching country.

The OP, who has only seen spoiled QHs, is a whole 'nother person.
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Okay this is interesting! I live in the north east of America, but I have lived in Canada, Wyoming, Montana and Colorado. I loved Wyoming. So, what I see is a lot of quarter horses, morgans and then other breeds. I just wondered if quarter horses are going the same direction as the Morgan with respect to a clear division within the breed.

I have worked with some really nice QH and some nice we don't know what it is so we are calling it QH. I don't think I would own one but thats mostly because I profoundly enjoy my Standardbreds.
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post #20 of 23 Old 08-16-2012, 10:06 AM
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I see a fair number of quarter horses. I know they are very popular. I don't mean to offend anyone but there is a fair portion of the ones I see that are very poorly behaved. Big bodies, tiny feet and snotty attitude seems to sum up a portion of the breed.
I have bolded the important part.

The reason you see a lot of QHs with poor confirmation and a crappy attitude is that they're super popular and people are just breeding them willy nilly without paying attention to confirmation, health or temperament. It's the same reason why you tend to see a lot of crappy labrador retrievers... people breed them indiscriminately because there is a large market for them. People don't care whether they're getting a good specimen of the breed: they just want something cheap.
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