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    06-26-2012, 10:58 PM
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Trained
Question about rescue organization policy.

Today I received a phone call from a friend about her Gr Daughter.
This young girl was given a horse by her mother for Christmas.
The horse supposedly came from a rescue agency.
This 16 YO child is now pregnant and no longer lives with her mother.
The mothers ex boyfriend has demanded the horse be removed from his pasture by friday afternoon.
If that horse was adopted from a rescue agency does the agency need to be informed of where the horse is?
I have no problem bringing the horse here.
However I do want to avoid any legal issues involving the child.
I am not concerned about myself .
The Grandmother will sign a legal document for the 16 YO.
If any agency shows up with proper documentation they can have the mare.
The childs mother is NOT trustworthy.
Neither the child or the Grandmother knows where the horse came from.
Only that it was a resuce.
Can anyone give me any insight into how rescues adopt out horses and what possible responsibilities the child might have to the organization?
Being 16 and pregnant as well as on her own she does not need any more problems. Especially legal ones.
Thanks for any advice or insight you might have. Shalom
     
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    06-27-2012, 01:10 AM
  #2
Yearling
Would it be worth asking the mothers where it came from?

Otherwise have a look at what rescues are local I can't imagine they'd look across the state.

Some do have a return before sale clause. I know of other that will not totally sell and in fact lease out permanently
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    06-27-2012, 01:29 AM
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Bluebonnet Equine Humane Society

Check with these folks, they've been involved with many Arabians over the past several years, so that's who I'd probably talk to first. If you can give me a horse name, hopefully the registered name, I can look it up in DS and see if I recognize the name of a previous owner as having had their horses taken.

Most rescues maintain LEGAL ownership of the horses they send out and want them back rather than sold.

Here's their adoption policy from their site:

When adopting, the adopter signs a contract agreeing to:
Never use the adopted equine for breeding
Never use the adopted equine as a Embryo Transfer donor or recipient
To never sell the adopted equine
To not send the equine through an auction or to a slaughter house,
To only give away, lease out, or otherwise dispose of the equine (aside from humane euthanasia) when approved by the Adoption Coordinator. This approval will only be granted if:
o The adopter has had the adopted equine for more than one year.
o The person the adopter wishes to rehome the equine with agrees to submit a BEHS adoption and is approved.
o The person the adopter wishes to rehome the equine with agrees to follow the rules and guidelines outlined in the BEHS adoption contract and is willing to submit to a pre-adoption inspection and follow-up inspections in accordance with the adoption contract.
If the adopter cannot keep the equine and cannot/will not rehome the equine in accordance with the above requirements, the equine must be returned to BEHS if the adopter can no longer keep the equine
Advise BEHS if the equine is moved from the location described on the adoption contract
Notify BEHS if the equine dies or is euthanized
Maintain the equine in proper condition and health in accordance with the BEHS Minimum Standards of Care Policy
Agrees to give BEHS volunteers who are acting upon instructions from the Board of Directors, Officers, or the Adoption Follow Up Coordinator access to the equine, with or without notice, in order to verify the equine’s condition and health

Immediately notify BEHS if he/she receives a citation for any criminal or civil offense related to animal abuse or neglect
     
    06-27-2012, 08:12 AM
  #4
Trained
Thanks .
Dreamcatcher that was the first organization I was going to call.
I am also concerned with the fact that this 16 YO pregnant child is going to be hard pressed to keep this mare.
I have no problem feeding this horse but I do believe that as the owner she should in some way pay part of the upkeep.
I will wait till the horse is here and talk to the girl. Maybe she has some kind of paperwork about the horse.
Dreamcatcher I owe you one. Shalom
     
    06-27-2012, 08:29 AM
  #5
Green Broke
Not sure about texas but in VA, what the 16 yo wants isnt releavant. Legally a 16 yo owns NOTHING. Get a bill of sale from the unreliable mother as legally she owns the horse.
     
    06-27-2012, 08:38 AM
  #6
Trained
Joe, here in OK the minute that minor child got pregnant, she would be considered emancipated and have all the rights and responisbilities of an adult. Not sure how they are in TX but here in OK, it's all on her.
     
    06-27-2012, 10:44 AM
  #7
Trained
Joe I see your point.
However the mother has not had legal custody of the daughter since she was 8 .
She is also on some binge somewhere and no one has seen her.
Good point though. Shalom
     
    06-27-2012, 10:52 AM
  #8
Started
If never hurts to call the agency and ask? From what I know in my area, agencies don't need to know where the horse goes, just who has the horse. People change barns all the time. It would be a lot of extra paper work for an agency to keep everytime a horse was moved from barn to barn. But like I said, if you have any doubt, call and ask
     
    06-27-2012, 10:57 AM
  #9
Trained
If I knew the agency I definetly would.
There are several.
With her finances and future responsibilites I doubt that she will be able to keep the horse.
The first issue is to get the horse off the property. Safe and secure somewhere else.
I did email Bluebonnet to see if they adopted the horse out.
I do not know its name. Or whose name the horse may be in.
Shalom
     
    06-27-2012, 11:03 AM
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Started
Hmmm, I would guess that all agencies in the same state have the same standard rules/regs. Perhaps ask an agency close to you and then ask if the policy is protocol from agency to agency. I think that would be your best bet and one of the easier ways to go about it.
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