Originally Posted by Back2Horseback View Post
Whoa...Dreamcatcher, was not indicating you are GREEDY at all. Was making a generalized statement about the people in the horse industry (based in total on the very facts/figures financial in's & out's of leasing from someone THEORETICALLY in a position such as yours, at least that was how I perceived your statements...I would have been much more direct and obvious if I had intended to sling an insult that unkind! Hope you understand where my comments were derived from.
I got the impression from you that there was a great amount of required input from ANY POTENTIAL LESSEE in order for you to feel safe in said situation. I fully understand that, as I would likely be just as cautious in your position, if not moreso (would not lease out any horse I owned at all, simply because I am SO NEUROTIC that knowing my horse was not under my DAILY CARE AND IN MY LINE OF SIGHT, I COULDN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT!)...I TRULY, no sarcasm, envy those with the ability to relax and trust when it comes you their loved ones, be it pets or children or spouse!
Now I don't want to leave anything anyone mentioned unaddressed, but I have to work off of memory here as my iPhone is hard to look back and edit with, so if I get something a bit off, it is accidental, but an intentional slight, ok guys?
Let me also begin with the fact that the LAST THING I WANT/NEED is a debate with people becoming upset over the topic of "To lease or not to lease...", as that was NOT really meant to be the question. I wondered why it was that leasing is commonplace and often done elsewhere, yet not so in Tucson, AZ!? You go to Scottsdale, a city in Phx, AZ, and there are lease opportunities aplenty!
Dreamcatcher, I think it WOULD be nuts for you to lease a horse from OK to some practical stranger in AZ! I was never insinuating that would be "commonplace"...as well, I have personal reasons for feeling ten thousand is a fair amount of horse security money...yes, I would certainly insure any horse I owned for medical, but that only covers medical. To be more specific...it does not cover trailering or the purchase/repair of a trailer if one were needed to provide SOMETHING UNEXPECTED for said horse. It could cover rebuild of a structure if my horse were kept at my home and fencing was destroyed/something flooded and requires re-grading...or any other "unthinkable circumstance"...I just want to be prepared. In brief, my indoor 13# chi/rat terrier mix was attacked last year, in the middle of the city where we live, by a BOBCAT (!) which jumped over our 12foot concrete wall, ripped her trachea and esophagus out of her neck, punctured a lung, punctured her posterior neck in 25 places, all in a matter o of 5 minutes, when instead of being outside
Whoops. Post cut off...to continue, instead of being outside with her, he ran in to get something and this happened!
E-vet required $3000 to START SURGERY, or we coups euthanize. Had that money not been available that minute, no more beloved dog. Four weeks and $5000.00 later she was good as new and my neurosis was a mess. She is our responsibility! We never want to be in a place where we cannot save a loved animal (within REASON, of course) sure to being a few hundred dollars short!!
Please realize...I do not wish to show. I have no lofty goals for others to be a part of. All of my horse related goals are four my happiness, being able to show a horse love, give him/her great care, and try and pray he/she will love me, at least a little, in return. It's therapy for me, it's relearning trust in myself physically after an illness almost took my life 9 years ago...it's a lot of things. But on MY END? I know I will never intentionally do harm to any horse, and was some freak accident to occur? Well , I would do everything in my power to make it right....its funny you brought up checking in on any horse you leased out to be sure all was well? I would prefer that, and likely would be contacting any person I leased from with questions constantly (within reason, naturally)...I would need to know if said horse does x, what does that usually mean and how would you like me to handle it?" If I do lease, I will love the horse, that is a for sure. But I will not blur the ownership lines, and will follow the owner's wishes to a tee! I am just that WAY, & so the more involved the owner, IMO, the better.
I hope this all helps to clarify some of what I want and why, and again, advice always welcome, thanks four reading my dissertation!