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post #11 of 14 Old 10-14-2009, 01:00 AM
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I unfortunately have had a bad farrier too so i know how ya feel sweetie. This guy did the same stuff that yours did the other day and worse. First he decided to twitch Magic which only made her more panicked then smacked her in the belly with a rope when she jumped around, needless to say she was a wreck by the time he finished with her. I had the same parent situation too, i couldn't say a freakin' word cause they didn't care if she got smacked around, they just listened to him and twisted the twitch harder till she reared and flipped backward... and then of course anyone with a brain could see it wasn't working, but what did he say to do, get her up and twist harder, "shell hold still if her lip turns blue"... YA PSYCHO! Unfortunately adults like to listen to other adults even when they are being ignorant because hey they are ...adults! I love when they say "oh you don't understand, or you should listen to the older person and learn something" ya what is there to learn? Hurt your horse to get it to listen, i think some people take the concept of discipline a little too far ESPECIALLY adults, after all times change guys, i mean back in the day if you didn't lay your kid out as soon as he or she acted up you were spoiling them right? I think using enough force on a horses sensitive gums to leave lasting red marks is a bit of an overkill myself... That could lead to inflamation and possibly infection, but hey it controlled her right? Whats a few damaged nerves in the hope of not having to be patient and take your time when after all you are working with an animal.....
You were in the right to be upset, as a professional he should have had the courtesy of asking you if you agreed with what he was doing, and i feel for ya with the dad thing, its hard, especially when you can't say a word when it happens cause you know you'll just be told to shut up but when you try to vent you are told its basically your fault it happened...
That said, yes you need to work with her, its very important that if you are going to have her shod she stand quietly and safely allow the farrier to do his job, but you already know this so kudos... tough it out, keep workin, and good luck! dorry for the rant, just bugs me, kinda a sore spot...

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post #12 of 14 Old 10-14-2009, 01:27 AM
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Work with her to get her more accepting of what a farrier may do with her to the best of your ability. But most importantly if this farrier simply isn't for you there are plenty of farriers out there so find one that better suites you and your horse.
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post #13 of 14 Old 10-14-2009, 03:35 AM
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I once had a bad experience with a farrier. We had used this guy many times before and he was great even with misbehaving horses, and did a great job with the feet, but we hadn't used him for about a year (due to scheduling issues). But we had one of my young horses who I had bought unhandled. She was fine with me with her feet, and my mother, most people really, but the first farrier we had out had scared her so she was funny with farriers a little, I swear she could smell them.

Anyway this time I was there alone at a new agistment place with the horse, about her third time being shod, and I figured it would be fine as this guy had been great. Anyway I took her up there, told her she was only two, had only had a few experiences with farriering and the last guy hadn't been good with her. Anyway he came up in a bit of a huff like he had had a bad day and my horse picked up on it immediately, but she wasn't bad, just very nervous. Anyway he started on her, and I think she spooked at something a little (tractor I think) while picking up her back foot so she jumped away and he just grabbed his long metal rasp and belted her in the stomach. I don't like people hitting horses but I understand farriers need to take care of themselves, and occasionally they elbow a horse, or jerk on it a little, or even slap it, but to react like that with a rasp straight up at a spook in unreasonable for me.

I said, "please don't hit my horse" so without a word he grabbed his stuff, chucked it in his ute and drove off. I was about fourteen back then, alone at a strange agistment place with this big gruffy farrier and its pretty scary to stand up to them, but your horse cannot stand up for itself, you have to be their voice, even when you are nervous. Your horse is your responsibility.
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post #14 of 14 Old 10-15-2009, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Gillian View Post
^ Honestly? Than you as the owner should have told him to STOP.
If you disagree with how someone is handling your horse it is your DUTY to step up.

I don't blame the farrier, though he may be ignorant, it was you who knew better.

I agree...there is NO way I could have just stood there and not said something if someone was doing something I didn't feel comfortable with on MY horse! Even when I was in HS, if someone was doing something that I didn't feel was necessary to my horse, I told them to stop.

I also have to agree with the other point brought up that you need to prepare your horse for handling of feet and legs, and it doesn't take very long each day to get them prepared. Cleaning feet, or atleast handling and lifting feet everyday on a horse who doesn't like it, is important, because otherwise it won't become '2nd nature' to them to give their feet to you.

I am sorry you had a bad experience with this farrier, but next time, don't be afraid to speak up; you have the right to speak on your horse's behalf. The alcohol alone, in his vehicle, would have had me saying to leave; I don't want someone who is potentially drunk working on my animal.

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