Reason number 1 not to get in the middle of a horse fight! - Page 2 - The Horse Forum

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post #11 of 22 Old 05-16-2013, 03:22 PM
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Yikes!! Definitely a lesson learned the hard way!

I boarded at one place years ago and was there one day where some newbie horse owners had just trailered in their new horse, and were leading it over to turn it out in the new paddock with a few quiet older paddock mates. They waved to me as they passed and asked "Should we take Dobbin in the paddock on the lead first to meet the other horses and to make sure they'll get along?" I'm sure I stammered out something more polite than "Please don't make me watch someone get killed today!" and explained to them why that would basically be the worst idea ever. The horses in the paddock were pretty laid back, and it wasn't very exciting when I turned him out quick for them, but I REALLY didn't want to take the chance of something happening, and then me being the only one there to deal with it and clean up the mess, so I was glad they asked first!!

When I was in college the one instructor drilled into everyone's heads, if a horse panicked or something happened, you get the heck out of the way! You don't rush to untie it, or console it, or unhook it's hoof out of wherever it managed to jam it into, etc. Most of the time the horse, if it could get itself into that position, it could get itself right back out. And the last thing the panicked horse needed was a panicked person rushing in where they're going to get nailed.

And a young teen girl at my barn last summer was outside and witnessed a stallion try to jump the fence over top of an automatic waterer to get to a mare. The stallion got high centered over the fence, and the young girl rushed in, to do what I'm not sure, and she didn't know at the time either. As she ran up, the stallion bit her right in the chest, and threw her out of way. He managed to get himself unstuck and over the fence, and bred the mare he was after. Luckily the girl escaped with only some horrible scrapes and bruising, but no lasting damage. Another lesson learned the hard way.

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post #12 of 22 Old 05-16-2013, 03:24 PM
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I sit on my trough edge, If I am inbeteween two horses, I always watch the Lead horse. As soon as I see that go to hell look in the eye or that ear twitch that says back off, I whack that lead horse. BECAUSE when I am around,I am the Lead Boss and everyone better back off ! Sometimes all I need to do is holler no, or make a noise like aacckkkk... I have been pushed by them, but then I go get a stick, and somebody gets a whack or two , just to remind them I am boss.
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post #13 of 22 Old 05-16-2013, 03:29 PM
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Ouch. One time only I intervened in a fight, had it been my own I'd have let it go. Looking back I shouldn't have but was fortunate it turned out okay. The things we do when we are young and dumb right? I was asked to do chores for a family friend while they went on vacation. While I was in their barn aisle feeding, their jr stud busted the pipe gate off it's hinges, flew past me and was at the gate of the sr stud and they got going. I busted the young one pretty good with a shop broom & chased him into another stall. Was it stupid, you bet. Would I do it again, not a chance.

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post #14 of 22 Old 05-16-2013, 03:58 PM
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Yup getting in the middle of a fight or getting too close to a panicking horse is asking for trouble.....however on the panic topic, I have a couple of times HAD to get hold of a panicking horse because a track rider was getting her leg squished in the starting gates at the track. We walked the horse in and through a couple of times, fine, then we walked her in with the front gate open and closed the back gate, she dropped to her side like a ton of bricks and started thrashing around and my best friend (of 16 years now I believe) had her leg stuck between the horse and the chute (stupid horse could've just walked out!) I jumped up onto the side of the chute and got hold of that horses ear and I swear I would've ripped its ear off before I let it crush my friend.....anyway my friend just had surgery on that knee 10 years after the fact......

I'm not all for grabbing ears.....but if its going to save the horse or the person I'm all for it......

(Eventually we figured out why the horse liked to drop to the ground when it was in a situation that made it nervous - they old timer who broke her in would lay them down quite roughly and tie their leg so they couldn't get up - then he'd go to his house and have a cup of tea, the horse associated getting out of a bad scary situation by laying down as when she did the old timer would leave her alone)
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post #15 of 22 Old 05-17-2013, 12:03 PM
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I suppose its better to get a second hand reminder that horses can be lethal than to be on the receiving end of it.
We were once in an awful situation when we had 3 horses on a boarding yard when our youngest son was a baby as it seemed like the easiest way to cope. Our sweet natured mare decided to drive away an equally sweet natured pony when the young owner walked in between them with a handful of handful of treats to catch her pony. The poor kid was knocked out by the force of the teeth hitting her head but fortunately came out of it with just a scrape and bad bruising, if someone close by hadn't seen and acted fast to drive them away by yelling & throwing a headcollar at them she could easily have been trampled
The parents never blamed our horse and learned that going into a crowd of horses that you don't really know with a load of goodies is a bad idea.
I was horrified to once read a post on this forum where a quite novice owner declared that she had no worries about doing that as she felt she could easily drive any 'muggers' away.
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post #16 of 22 Old 05-17-2013, 12:16 PM
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I taught my horses on an individual basis about trespassing my space to the point that they will not invade even as a group when I happen to have treats on me. They have seen the possessed side of me come out when they even looked like they were wanting to stretch their necks to try and smell the treats out of my hand. Arms and hands flailing along with a jumping jack attempt with my legs.
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A horse's life is never worth a human life. I've always been taught that.

Panic takes people just as fast as it takes horses. Panic causes people/animals to do stupid things. I've never gotten between two fighting horses. If they want to break eachother's bones, I'm not the one to be running inbetween them yelling "Mine too! Break mine too!"

I've heard of a couple cases where people get inbetween fighting horses. I have no clue what on god's green acre they thought they were doing. They all come out injured one way or another.

Rushing into a dangerous situation without taking those extra few seconds to think and evaluate will get you hurt and killed. I'm sure the next time something like that happens, this woman will stop, think and evaluate before diving inbetween two wrecking balls.

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post #18 of 22 Old 05-17-2013, 06:39 PM
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My hand is hurting after reading that, and my ring finger is tingling.
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post #19 of 22 Old 05-18-2013, 01:44 AM
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It is so easy to forget that our "fur babies" are capable of such damage. I have three cats and I know that if they really felt the urge, they could do some serious damage. And a horse is so much bigger! I do feel bad that the woman had to learn in such a painful way.
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post #20 of 22 Old 05-18-2013, 01:58 AM
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Ouch! I always try to keep the worst case scenario in the back of my mind when I work with horses. I see two horses, I think of a fight or even just a kick that I get in the way of. I see a fence and think of getting squished or run over. Feed pan, knocked down and run over. There are just so many danger when dealing with huge fight or flight animals. Especially animals that happen to be the super drama queens of the livestock world.

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