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    07-11-2011, 09:50 AM
  #1
Foal
recently gelded 8 yr old.

Long story very short so as not to bore you.
We need another horse like we need another hole in my head.

My wife grew up in town, but had an Aunt who had horses. This is where my wifes love for horses came from. She would spend weekends with the Aunt and now we have 6 horses, and my wife barrel races, and horses are her life.

5 years ago the Aunt passed away and the Aunts BF at the time got the Stallion she had. Long story short he had the horse gelded in March and can no longer keep him. Knowing my wife's history with the Aunt, he gave him to us.

Wife is thrilled. Horse is broke...but not dead broke. I would call him green broke. He is thin, but not horrible thin...just will need some a little extra to get where he should be.

The only problem that I am worried about is how he acts with other horses. He was a Stud for 8 years...although he did not do alot of breeding...and has pretty much always been alone.

Last night we put him in with our 6 in a large dry lot with a round bale. It was very different than introducing the typical Gelding. He screamed and stopped and everything like a Stud. He did not try to mount, even though we have one mare who is in season. He just kind of claimed her as his own, and the two of them have been very tight. The others are all being held off the round bale and kept separate.

I figure in time he will either establish himself as the new heard leader, or get knocked down a peg or two by one of the other older Geldings, or the Old Mare. Either way, they will settle in I would think in a couple of days.

The real question I have is out on the trail. Wife wants to make him a barrel racer. Has anyone delt with this before? A horse that was gelded late? Does it take them long to settle down into a typical gelding. Will they ever settle down that much? I just don't want to go on a trail ride and have him stomp and squeal etc in public...hahaha. Is there anything else I need to be aware of that you can think of?
     
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    07-11-2011, 09:55 AM
  #2
Green Broke
Depends on the horse. My Aunt had one stud who was used for breeding and gelded at 6 who did awesome out in the field so long as there werent any mares mixed in. If there were, he'd run all the geldings off & seperate the mares with him. On the trail, being ridden he was fine, though. Beginner friendly & never threw a fuss.

Another stud they had was gelded at 16 & used extensively for breeding & although he hadn't been ridden in YEARS prior to being gelded, he picked it up again like nothing & I hear he does really well as a riding horse. No issues.

Like any horse, though, if the ex-stud has good manners & respect for its rider it will be alright. If not, then you'll have problems. Like I said, the only time I've seen issues is if mares & geldings were mixed.
     
    07-11-2011, 10:10 AM
  #3
Weanling
Depends on the horse. We have a horse who was gelded at 8 and he doesn't act studdish at all. He is unrideable due to poor training currently but that would be the same whether he'd been gelded early or late. I've known a few gelded late who never really stopped acting studdy. Like lilruffian says, if the stud has good manners and respect he should be fine
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    07-11-2011, 01:36 PM
  #4
Trained
Sounds like he did really well being put in with geldings & mares. I bought a breeding stallion that was gelded at 11 yrs old. He always had a heavy breeding season and was never kept with other horses, just fence contact with mares he had breed. I used to show him for the owner when he was a stud & he was well behaved even though we had mares race across the showpen & attack him (he jumps to the side really fast!). He was always a great riding horse and after he was gelded, he continued to be. I only keep him with his son but when he is boarded when we go on vacation, he has fenceline contact with mares & shows no interest whatsoever. I'd say he's a typical gelding now, way more interested in his food & his stablemate then mares or new horses. Sounds like your guy will be okay in a public situation, he didn't act like a stallion when you put him in a herd, he acted like a gelding. Geldings can get all protective of mares as well even though they have never bred any in their lives. So your wife is addicted to horses huh? Nothing wrong with that, keeps her active and as I said before, way worse things that she could be addicted to.
     
    07-11-2011, 02:01 PM
  #5
Started
It is not uncommon for a horse that was gelded late in their life to need some extra time to adjust. My horse was gelded when he was 4 (not as last as yours, but later than normal) I had to keep him separated for a full year before he calmed down. He knows goes out with 5 or 6 other horses, mixed sexes and does fine. He is the dominant horse in his field however.

It sounds like this new horse will be just fine. They'll have the initial cuts and screaming until everyone establishes a new pecking order.
     
    07-11-2011, 02:10 PM
  #6
Showing
I agree that it sounds like he did very well for his first time out with other horses. He was just aggressive enough to establish himself but didn't spend time purposefully chasing the crap out of the others.

I see no reason why she can't make him a barrel horse. Now that the hormones are out of his system, all he needs is good training to teach him to be respectful and obedient around other horses. I've dealt with a few horses that were gelded late and a lot of their attitude after gelding depended on what kind of training they got as a younger stud. An ill tempered stud can, most times, be corrected after gelding though, it just takes time.
     
    07-11-2011, 02:34 PM
  #7
Foal
Thanks for all the opinions. You are right...he has no interest in chasing the others around...he pretty much lets them be if they let him be...so maybe its all just an adjustment thing. The screaming and squealing was all more than what I am used to...so I was thinking it was a stallion behavior.

Thanks for all the encouragement.
     
    07-11-2011, 04:22 PM
  #8
Showing
Yeah, the I've noticed that the squealing and pawing that happens around my house is more of an alpha behavior than a stud behavior. My main guy that was gelded at 3 could convince anyone that he was still a stud whenever a new horse gets turned out with them. He does the whole neck arched, squeal, pawing, ears flattened thing too LOL.
     

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