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post #1 of 9 Old 07-20-2012, 10:09 AM Thread Starter
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Registered or not registered?

Hello

Just looking for some advice please. Im keeping an eye on friesians for sale. What is the difference in registered and non registered horses? I realisethey obviously arent registered to the friesian horse society but there doesnt seem to be much difference in price!

Is it easy to register a horse? What is it for?

Thanks!
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post #2 of 9 Old 07-20-2012, 10:22 AM
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Registered horses are worth more.

You can follow their pedigree incase of genetic diseases. And youll also know that they are purebred. They can show in breed shows and earn points/status/money.

A non registered horse, even if purebred, is considered a Grade in my book.

If a horse can be registered it should be. Certain qualifications must be met in order to get papers. Sometimes it can be a major hassle, sometimes is super easy.
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Registry is very important in a Friesian especially - particularly the type of registry. Some Friesian "registries" we're set up to allow crossbreeding or to have a place to register a Friesian crossbred, and they're not great.
I will come back to this when I have a keyboard and can provide links.
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Registered horses are worth more.

You can follow their pedigree incase of genetic diseases. And youll also know that they are purebred. They can show in breed shows and earn points/status/money.

A non registered horse, even if purebred, is considered a Grade in my book.

If a horse can be registered it should be. Certain qualifications must be met in order to get papers. Sometimes it can be a major hassle, sometimes is super easy.
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Thank you thats a big help! So its kind of like dog registrys, nothing wrong with a nonreg but with registered you will know its not a mixed breed!
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Registry is very important in a Friesian especially - particularly the type of registry. Some Friesian "registries" we're set up to allow crossbreeding or to have a place to register a Friesian crossbred, and they're not great.
I will come back to this when I have a keyboard and can provide links.
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Thanks thats really helpful! Look forward to seeing the links
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depends on the horse and what you want to do with it. You cant ride papers.
You need to ask yourself if the papers add value to you for your purpose.
I can get on a TWH and ride it a couple laps around a field , and look at its shape and know if it is pure bred enough for me, I also refuse to give the TWHBEA a penny of my money either by registering or attending any of their shows. My mare was registered but I wont ever transfer into my name.

Currently I am shopping for an Endurance Arabian. Registration of the horse and parents are important to me. Beyond basic confirmation I cant tell if horse will make a good endurance prospect. I would choose to stack the deck by looking at bloodline. Yeh I am sure Secretariat bred some dud offspring, but if you wanted to win a race and you had to pick between Secretariat's son, and Old Bob who would you choose ?
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Hi,
I don't know much about registries or friesians. I do know that the friesian registry is really hard to get into. I know someone who purchased a 4 year old stallion friesian and thought they could register it and it would be worth the cost its initial purchase price. Well, the horse was no where near pretty enough or behaved enough to be registered. It also had a habit of charging and striking out in the round pen. If you were looking to have a horse registered or were thinking of breeding get registration. As I understand the friesian registry you can't register horses that were not out of registered parents. You can easily pay a lot of money for a horse and expect to be able to register it and then not. Its not just saying the horse is out of this or that parent its about having its conformation and attitude along with that they can do in the showing that dictates the level of registration and if registration is offered. If I was interested in the friesian horse I would research the registry because its really easy to spent a lot of money on a horse thats not necessarily worth it. I might be totally wrong about the registry and please correct me if I am.
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depends on the horse and what you want to do with it. You cant ride papers.
You need to ask yourself if the papers add value to you for your purpose.
I can get on a TWH and ride it a couple laps around a field , and look at its shape and know if it is pure bred enough for me, I also refuse to give the TWHBEA a penny of my money either by registering or attending any of their shows. My mare was registered but I wont ever transfer into my name.

Currently I am shopping for an Endurance Arabian. Registration of the horse and parents are important to me. Beyond basic confirmation I cant tell if horse will make a good endurance prospect. I would choose to stack the deck by looking at bloodline. Yeh I am sure Secretariat bred some dud offspring, but if you wanted to win a race and you had to pick between Secretariat's son, and Old Bob who would you choose ?
Tbh id use the horse for hacking, schooling and mayb some dressage but not competing!
From what your saying i think id still prefer a registered horse for piece of mind that uv paid for a pure breed and not a cross etc! Thanks ur info has really helped!
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Hi,
I don't know much about registries or friesians. I do know that the friesian registry is really hard to get into. I know someone who purchased a 4 year old stallion friesian and thought they could register it and it would be worth the cost its initial purchase price. Well, the horse was no where near pretty enough or behaved enough to be registered. It also had a habit of charging and striking out in the round pen. If you were looking to have a horse registered or were thinking of breeding get registration. As I understand the friesian registry you can't register horses that were not out of registered parents. You can easily pay a lot of money for a horse and expect to be able to register it and then not. Its not just saying the horse is out of this or that parent its about having its conformation and attitude along with that they can do in the showing that dictates the level of registration and if registration is offered. If I was interested in the friesian horse I would research the registry because its really easy to spent a lot of money on a horse thats not necessarily worth it. I might be totally wrong about the registry and please correct me if I am.
Ur totally right! From what ive read up on they are very strict on registry. Eg no white permited except upto 2cm on the face. Thanks u hav been a massive help!
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