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post #41 of 45 Old 02-21-2012, 07:00 PM
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I've been an instructor/mentor at several intervals since I started military service in 1989, and am one of the senior instructors at a DoD training academy now - I don't have the experience with the high schoolers of today (my wife does), but I do see some "difficult learners" in the enlisted/officer/civilian ranks to this day. It's mind boggling - they just don't realize they are robbing themselves of a chance to learn.

On the other hand, I just witnessed a riding instructor the other day yelling and cursing a blue streak at a young (maybe late teens/early 20s) student. Granted, I had not been paying much attention until that point - had my hands full with a chestnut mare - but by the time it got my attention the whole scene struck me as unprofessional and unnecessary. Maybe it's because I know how to get someone's attention without raising my voice. But everyone has their style, I suppose, and again I didn't see what the issue was to begin with.

The young girl started to quit, but stuck with it and the scene de-escalated. Good for her.
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post #42 of 45 Old 02-21-2012, 07:16 PM
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I think making a generational comment about folks being rude or irresponsible is like saying poverty causes crime. While more criminals are poor, they don't steal because they are poor. They steal because they are dishonest. My Mom grew up in the Depression, and wasn't allowed to wear shoes to school until there was frost on the ground. My wife, growing up in the Philippines, was hired out at 5 - she would start fires and clean floors in exchange for food & clothing. But neither my Mom nor my wife would steal.

I don't believe in Gen X, or Baby Boomers. I'm a Baby Boomer, but my wife was a stay at home Mom. When I retired, she became an RN & I homeschooled our daughter for a few years.

Schools vary as well. My youngest has a combined honors paper for English & History on (her choice) how WW2 changed US society for the better. 10 pages typed, MLA format. I didn't get assignments like that when I was in the 9th grade - in 1972.

There are more irresponsible people now, and many parts of society - mostly government - encourage it. And I'm all in favor of opposing that. But I've never met a 'generation' - only people.

"Make the right thing easy and the wrong thing...well, ignore it mostly."
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post #43 of 45 Old 02-21-2012, 07:20 PM
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I don't think I have ever backtalked an instructor. If they ask me to do something and I am not sure of the how, I will ask questions or will repeat back what they said to make sure I heard it properly..sometimes I miss a few words due to wind or whatever.

One thing I do not accept, however, is a command to do something now, like a transition, if I feel my horse isn't properly balanced. I am working a new horse, green in balance, and I can't just go from a trot to a canter without balancing him first and setting up the transition. Well, I could..he would pick it up but it wouldn't be a good transition. I can however, do the transition on command if he is balanced and ready. Now, on a school horse, no problem. I can do the "open command" style lesson..just not when I am riding my own horse :)..he just isn't ready yet.

As for the general barn, yes, I see it all the time. Whilke things have gotten better in the past 6 months or so, we had a run for about a year where the teenagers in the 14-16 range were just acting like, well, teenagers. Disrespectful, backtalk, bad language, not bothering to pick up after themselves or their horses, taking lead lines and halters off the stalls and using them on other horses, bullying the other kids or other teens that weren't in their little group. The manager got involved in that and told them they could either straighten up or leave.

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post #44 of 45 Old 02-21-2012, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mellow Mel View Post
The disrespect in today's youth blows me away. I work in an Upper Elementary school which is grades 5 and the kids are 10-12. I am the Media person(librarian). A lot of these kids do not even have the simple "please and thank you" down. The way I have heard them talk to some of their teachers....unbelievable. I kick them out of my library until they can come back with some manners. You see this everywhere!!!
Actually, what is sad is the missing please, thank you and excuse me's from adults these days...drives me up a tree to listen to people.
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post #45 of 45 Old 02-21-2012, 08:17 PM
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I've never talked back to my instructor. Even though she sometimes asked me things that I was uncomfortable with doing, I always went along with it because I knew she was just trying to make me a better rider.

I can't stand the kids now a days! They are all so rude and disrespectful it drives me nuts. I'm 16 and I'm nothing like kids my age. Maybe that's why I don't have a lot of friends, I can't stand them

What ever happened to calling adults Mr. and Mrs.? What happened to manners? Maybe when kids get thrown into the real world they'll discover that world doesn't revolve around them.

But, something else that bugs me is when adults complain about kids now-a-days always being on their phones, ipods, and computers. If the parents didn't buy their kids the items, the kids would never get them because they're too darn lazy to earn the money! My cousins are handed these things on a silver platter and they are the most selfish, obnoxious, rude kids I've ever met. I have to pay for any of the big things that I want in life. I have saved my money my whole life. I was willing to go without pretty things so that I could buy something important later in life, like a car or pay for college. When kids tell me how lucky I am that my parents let me have a horse it drives me crazy. "I" applied at numerous places until I got a job. "I" work 20 hours a week to support my horse. "I" spent $1,100 to buy my own horse. "I" pay his board every month, and "I" buy everything he needs. My parents have only spent $15 on Lookit, and I want to pay them back so that I don't owe anything. Haha, maybe I will

When kids don't buy anything for themselves they don't value the stuff they have. My cousins treat their expensive electronics like they're trash. They don't value their stuff at all.

I know I'm not perfect by any means. I'm disrespectful and snotty at times, but I always regret it, and try to do better.

I could go on all day, but I want to eat.
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