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    04-30-2013, 04:48 AM
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Foal
Riding with a stallion?

I havnt had much to do with stallions and have always owned geldings.

Lately I've been riding my neighbours mare as my gelding has an injury. There is no good reason I can see that he is not gelded. Anyhow, he is squealing at the mare while we are riding. My neighbour seems to think this is quite normal. (I really don't know whats normal stallion behaviour, but she shouts at him a lot while we're riding) She has never owned a stallion before, bred this one herself and broke him herself.

Now she is suggesting that I bring my gelding for a ride. I said I was worried that he could be aggressive to my gelding. She was telling me how he's her "baby" and "like a puppy". (Que alarm bells ringing!)
From what I gather he's never been around any geldings. I have no intention of putting my horse in any danger. Is it likely for a stallion to be aggresive to a gelding they don't know?? And if it is dangerous how can I politely explain that to her?
     
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    04-30-2013, 05:12 AM
  #2
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Have you seen her riding the stallion? Does he respect her cues? Any horse, disregarding the gender, during rides should be listening only to the rider. I've ridden a stud among mares in heat, and he was an angel, although a little vocal, and among other geldings - true, he had met them before - no problems whatsoever. But, for a rider who is not respected by the stallion, it can turn out to be a problem.
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    04-30-2013, 05:23 AM
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I ride my stallion with other horses all the time. Mares, geldings and other stallions. My stallion is trained and we respect each other with a good understanding. BUT, I keep him a good horse length or more away from others and never between or in the middle of others; I watch for his signals and I respond to them. I want room to move him out if needed. I also do not hesitate to let others know that are crowding us to please move away.

Good luck and ride safe.
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    04-30-2013, 07:36 AM
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OK Thanks, He is quite vocal, and Im not sure how much he respects her, he rides alright but she seems to be fighting him the whole time (well she's yelling at him!) and he tries to bite on the ground.

I do keep the mare well away from him. Although the other week she wanted me to let the mare kick at him while we were riding to show that she's not interested.
And then last week I had to hold the mare on the lead so that she could kick him when he approached.
Is that standard stallion handling?
I guess Im just trying to gauge if she knows what she's doing because Im feeling a bit uneasy at the moment!
     
    04-30-2013, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Mazza007    
OK Thanks, He is quite vocal, and Im not sure how much he respects her, he rides alright but she seems to be fighting him the whole time (well she's yelling at him!) and he tries to bite on the ground.

I do keep the mare well away from him. Although the other week she wanted me to let the mare kick at him while we were riding to show that she's not interested.
And then last week I had to hold the mare on the lead so that she could kick him when he approached.
Is that standard stallion handling?
I guess Im just trying to gauge if she knows what she's doing because Im feeling a bit uneasy at the moment!
Well? I did it and do it differently. I see no point in teasing and going into harms way on purpose. But to each their own.

I don't fight with my stallion.... anymore. HE does what I tell him to do. Sometimes it takes more of a yank, boot or slap with the crop to get his attention back to me where it should be... but we don't fight. Ya sure, he'll do some dancing and a little rearing at times, but I KNOW that and we do some tight circles, calm down pretty fast and get back to riding. That's why I want some room and a way out.
     
    04-30-2013, 08:09 AM
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Green Broke
Years ago, I trail rode with a lady who was "five-foot-nuthin" and had the top breeding QH stallion in our area.

She rode that horse everywhere and you'd've sworn he was a gelding, he was so quiet and well-mannered. If she heard one teeny grunt out of him, she verbally disciplined him. We all knew to let her know if he was starting to drop --- out came the flat two inch wide leather strap and he got tapped very lightly on his business, along with a firm verbal command.

The stallion in the OP's post is being mis-managed, IMO. From my many times trail riding with that stallion, I can say it takes constant managing. He was the absolute best and extremely well-behaved fella, including at breeding time but his tiny little owner worked with him continually.

This was back in the day when "no woman had any business owning a stallion", so she worked twice as hard at making sure the handsome Gent was gelding quiet, no matter where he was
     
    04-30-2013, 08:09 AM
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Trained
If she is fighting him the whole time & squealing at the mare while she is riding him, he isn't properly trained. When a stallion is properly trained and he is being ridden, you shouldn't be able to notice a difference if he a stallion or a gelding, he is a RIDING horse under saddle. The only time a stallion should be allowed to act like a stud and react to a mare is when he is breeding or teasing and even then he has to listen & respect his handler. Stallions must have impeccable manners especially around other horses and keep their cool as sometimes miserable, not so well mannered mares will lash out at him when you are in a public place. When I showing a stallion, I never had to worry about him, I had to worry about other horses attacking him. Most scariest time was when I took him to a clinic & we all sitting on horses in the middle of the arena, I was off to the side further away from the other horses when all of a suuden this one mare lunged, spun & kicked at us! My stallion seen her coming before I did & jumped behind the clinician. We also had a mare run across the showpen at us, with her teeth barred, a ring steward saved us. Now what kind of situation would that have turned out to be if my stallion was aggressive and reacted in kind? To answer your question, no if I were you, I would not ride anywhere near her, too risky for my blood.
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    04-30-2013, 08:13 AM
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I know a person with a stallion and so far he has been fine - just like a gelding.

However your situation sounds different. Just tell her that he may be fine but you feel a bit uncomfortable, and would prefer not to ride your gelding with her stallion. People have to respect that others have different boundaries.
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    04-30-2013, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by waresbear    
If she is fighting him the whole time & squealing at the mare while she is riding him, he isn't properly trained. When a stallion is properly trained and he is being ridden, you shouldn't be able to notice a difference if he a stallion or a gelding, he is a RIDING horse under saddle. The only time a stallion should be allowed to act like a stud and react to a mare is when he is breeding or teasing and even then he has to listen & respect his handler. Stallions must have impeccable manners especially around other horses and keep their cool as sometimes miserable, not so well mannered mares will lash out at him when you are in a public place. When I showing a stallion, I never had to worry about him, I had to worry about other horses attacking him. Most scariest time was when I took him to a clinic & we all sitting on horses in the middle of the arena, I was off to the side further away from the other horses when all of a suuden this one mare lunged, spun & kicked at us! My stallion seen her coming before I did & jumped behind the clinician. We also had a mare run across the showpen at us, with her teeth barred, a ring steward saved us. Now what kind of situation would that have turned out to be if my stallion was aggressive and reacted in kind? To answer your question, no if I were you, I would not ride anywhere near her, too risky for my blood.
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Bolding mine. Yep. And point noted. I can control my horse, you dang well better be able to control yours.
     
    04-30-2013, 09:39 AM
  #10
Showing
Of course you heard about a top reining trainer who's in a wheelchair because the highly trained stallion suddenly turned on him. Years ago a gal wanted to ride with us on her stallion with me on my mare and my friend on her gelding. If this stallion suddenly had a surge of hormones which would he go after - the gelding as a competing male or attempt to copulate with my mare while I'm riding her? We told her she was welcome to ride with us when he's gelded and explained why, despite her protests of how she'd raised the horse and how well she knew him.
     

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