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        06-25-2013, 11:09 AM
      #31
    Yearling
    Now that I read the whole thread, I'll make one final comment on the whole "in writing" thing. Verbal contracts rarely count for anything regardless of the money involved. You ALWAYS get something in writing - whether it's a receipt for a deposit or - better yet - a signed contract agreeing to the terms of sale, including how long the owner will have the horse. It protects both the seller and the buyer.

    For instance, say you "buy" a horse, no contract is signed and the seller is holding it for you, and someone gets kicked? Who's liable? Without a contract explicitly saying when the actual transfer of ownership takes place (i.e. When the horse leaves the property, a specific date, effective immediately, etc.), you and the seller may be pointing fingers at one another and end up in a lawsuit from the injured person.

    If you were buying a $30,000 horse, I guarantee both parties would be signing detailed contracts before ANY assumptions were made about the transfer of ownership.

    As it's been said multiple times, it's business. And it has to be treated as such.
         
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        06-25-2013, 11:11 AM
      #32
    Green Broke
    Rude? Yes! It is rude. But I would take the horse that was more suited for me. I deal in this sort of thing all the time (not horses) and I take deposits and make contracts. If I was you I would take this as a learning experience and not make deal I will not keep, I am a person of my word and that is about all you have!!! If you lose that, well, I am sorry for you. Soooooooooooooooo, maybe offer the owner of the mare 100.00 for wasting her time but from now on, do not make promises and plans you cannot keep! IMO, it is just not right!!!
         
        06-25-2013, 11:15 AM
      #33
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    If it were me and I was selling you the horse I would want My horse to go to the Perfect home.. and if you feel that the horse is not perfect for you your honesty coming to me and letting me ASAP is what I would want. Would I bummed that the sale fell through YES but it does sound like that they can sell her pretty fast.
    I have also seen Owners backing out of a sale that was agreed on because they were offered more money. Is that wrong?? YES and I think rude. But you figuring out you found a better match is not Rude at all.
         
        06-25-2013, 11:17 AM
      #34
    Yearling
    If there's no signed contract, the seller would be silly to assume the horse was guaranteed sold. Personally, I wouldn't take offense as a seller and wouldn't expect any money in return for "wasting" my time because I'd be smart enough to have either a contract or a back-up plan.
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        06-25-2013, 11:19 AM
      #35
    Green Broke
    Finding a better horse is not the rude part. It's the going around making deals and scheduling times for these things to happen that is. And the longer you wait to tell her you are backing out the ruder it is. You should have said, yes I want her but if something better comes along I will take it before you even left.

    I do agree with CS, that I would not want my horse going to a home that was not perfect. I am not saying you should not go with the better horse for you. I am just saying think first next time.

    EDIT: There are a lot of people that still believe that your word and a handshake are good as gold.
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        06-25-2013, 11:19 AM
      #36
    Trained
    It's rude to not call back the seller of the first horse as soon as you changed your mind. Do that asap, no deposit was given so I highly doubt anyone was spending money they hadn't secured yet, & if they did, it's a good lesson for in how private sales work, buyers back out of unsecured verbal agreements all the time! If I was the seller, I might be slightly disappointed that my horse wasn't sold but I rather my horse to go to an owner that truly wanted him, not to someone who felt obligated.
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        06-25-2013, 11:21 AM
      #37
    Green Broke
    My question would be, if you wanted to ride English, why did you waste their time in the first place? If your not a 'mare person'(personally I'm a 'good horse is a good horse' person, but anyways) why did you waste their time?

    A huge pet peeve of mine is people who don't know what they want, spending hours of peoples time for nothing. Yes, It would be very annoying if a buyer said they would buy a horse(your word is your bond, their was a time when all people had to do was say they would do things and they would get done, but today you need to have a contract, written and signed for everything.) and backed out at the last minute because they had kept looking, after promising to buy my horse, and found something they liked better. However, most sellers today realize that a persons word means very little, the only way you have a horse sold is when the paperwork is signed and money is in hand.
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        06-25-2013, 11:23 AM
      #38
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by Critter sitter    
    Would I bummed that the sale fell through YES but it does sound like that they can sell her pretty fast.
    Oh come on, you know you would be on here telling us all about this rude buyer,
         
        06-25-2013, 11:30 AM
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    Oh come on, you know you would be on here telling us all about this rude buyer,
    LOL Melinda it was only a few months ago I was infact Selling my mare.. I was lucky and I did have a great buyer who I "promised her too" I had Many come look at her. What drove me nuts were all the people who would call me and ask what my bottom dollar was not even coming to see her yet.. I would tell them I would Not talk Money unless they cam out to visit with me and the horse.
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        06-25-2013, 11:33 AM
      #40
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by BlueSpark    
    my question would be, if you wanted to ride English, why did you waste their time in the first place? If your not a 'mare person'(personally I'm a 'good horse is a good horse' person, but anyways) why did you waste their time?
    Because unless you keep an open mind and try a lot of horses how do you know what will fit?

    I am so not a mare person, so how come I have mares now? Because I have found that the right mare is worth her weight in gold. I have a mare who is English broke, who is going out to be re started Western, just because a horse rides well in one discipline, doesn't mean it can't do anything else.

    I get the people saying my word is my bond, but when buying or selling horses nothing is certain until the horse is on the trailer and cash money has been exchanged.
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