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    05-09-2013, 08:36 AM
If you tie the CORRECT knot, it is able to be undone no matter how tight it has been pulled.
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    05-09-2013, 11:09 AM
I use the blocker tie ring with my rope halter. There are different ways you can loop the rope through the tie ring to tie it loose, harder, and hardest. But even on the hardest setting if your horse has a freakout, it will slowly let rope release to the horse.

My yearling uses this to train to tie and she has set back on it. The blocker will slowly feed out rope to your horse, and usually a few steps backwards is all it takes to make your horse feel safe again. Or it gives you more time to run over and help them out. The worst thing I've seen when a horse is tied to something solid and their halter suddenly snaps is that they flip over from the momentum. I don't tie to anything but the blocker in a rope halter.
    05-09-2013, 11:50 AM
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My trainer actually uses a safety clip can't remember the name though. Her mare wa a nasty one about setting back and now she doesn't have the issue. It is the same idea of the blocker tie ring but they are less likely to actually get away from it. We have put several horses on it and all learned they couldn't get away by pulling rather then they could.

But yes a handy knife is your best bet to be completely safe lol.
    05-09-2013, 09:37 PM
The lack of hardware is precisely why I prefer the rope halters. A friend of mine nearly lost her eye to such a situation.

For myself, it's like pulling someone out of the ditch... I don't want to be anywhere NEAR a chain but will tow with straps all day long.
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    05-09-2013, 09:42 PM
Originally Posted by wild_spot    
If you tie the CORRECT knot, it is able to be undone no matter how tight it has been pulled.
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The correct knot still tightens rather than loosens. Know of a stud turned out in a rope halter who got one of his hinds through during the night. He had to be cut free when they found him in the morning. Not that a nylon halter would have broken without more leverage/momentum than he could have possibly produced in such a position... But a correctly tied rope halter does not, in my limited experience, come undone without strong fingers!
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    05-09-2013, 10:25 PM
Our rope halters have small loops under their throats where you can hook on a leadrope.

See where this is a shiny part here at the end of the photo, that is just a small clasp that is easily removable for emergencies and such.
Just a clasp like this:

Or like this where they twist and then the top flips open:
    05-10-2013, 02:45 AM
Originally Posted by wild_spot    
If you tie the CORRECT knot, it is able to be undone no matter how tight it has been pulled.
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Don't forget too in needs to be in the correct SPOT! The knot needs to ite around the loop that you put the line through initially. You should not tie the "line" back onto itself. The loop allows you to undo a knot if it gets tight. If that makes sense lol.

The loop I'm referring to is highlighted in red. This is incorrect:

This is correct:

The trick I use to remember is imagine the loop is a fence post and the line is a fence rail. You always tie your horse to a post and not the railing.
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    05-10-2013, 02:53 AM
From my experiences, any knot that's under the load of a scared, hurt, caught, whatever horse. Is NOT getting untied, nor is a buckle, hasp, or latch getting undone.
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    05-10-2013, 03:34 AM
We keep one of these tools (Craftsman Handi-Cut) in the truck when we are hauling, one in the barn and one in the house in case we have to race out the door with no time to go to the barn. Yes...I am paranoid! It cuts just about anything...rope, halter, latigo, severe case of nose hairs... without having to use a knife.
Personally I prefer the flat web halters for most things other than ground work.
And we do use the Blocker tie-rings. A startled horse can jump back without taking the rail with him or completely going into a panic and hurting himself or someone standing close.
It's a good thing we all have choices and can use what works for us. : )
    05-10-2013, 03:41 AM
Originally Posted by Phly    
From my experiences, any knot that's under the load of a scared, hurt, caught, whatever horse. Is NOT getting untied, nor is a buckle, hasp, or latch getting undone.
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Just as a "for what it's worth," I've had a horse break a 2" bull snap on its lead rope when it sat back hard. I was grooming a huge 17.2hh TB gelding who was built like a draft horse. Groomed his left side with no issues. Moved to his right side, touched his neck with the (soft) brush, and he absolutely freaked out. The bull snap broke on the top solid hook part clean through. Caught him by surprise, he went down on his hocks, and nearly took me down as he flailed to keep from going over. It all happened within five to ten seconds...not nearly enough time to even think, much less whip out a knife and cut him loose.

On the blocker tie ring...if used correctly, they are invaluable. My gelding didn't know how to stand tied when I got him. I strung his lead rope through the blocker ring and wrapped it around the hitching rail a couple of times. First time he sat back, it fed out a couple of feet (a few steps for him), but once the pressure was released, he stopped. Hard tying a horse that doesn't know how to tie or is prone to sitting back can be dangerous, IME, because if they're sitting back, they're most likely panicking, which means they aren't going to be "thinking" about "Oh, hey. If I step forward, the pressure from the halter will go away" (not literally thinking, of course, but I think you get what I mean). Instead they're thinking "I need to get away and this thing (the halter/pressure) is preventing that, so I must fight it to get away." The blocker ring provides an almost immediate release, so the horse doesn't actually get far before the pressure is released and they feel "safe" again.
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