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post #1 of 17 Old 08-31-2011, 02:13 PM Thread Starter
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Sarcastic Trainers: Love Them or Hate Them?

I have had my fair share of trainers since entering the horse world.

The ones I have communicated the BEST with were opinionated and told you what they thought it a very funny/sarastic way! Never out of anger or from being frustrated. When asked a question they were very upfront with their answer and not wish washy to "soothe the client" they told them reality.

I believe it breaks the ice and then you're open for communication. I don't like to hear good good good all the time...tell me what I am doing wrong!

Simply heels down,head up in a monotone would not do it for me all the time! They need to add some flavor and laughter for me to work best.

For the most part it should be a friend talking to a friend. "why are you leaning so far back?...you look like the man from snowy river."


I was riding Dillon and trainer told me to "quit posting so up and down (off the stirrups) as I looked like a nazi soldier!" "HAIL HITLER!" LMAO

And when asked to halt my horse (first learning) "stop pulling at his mouth he is trying to stop, woman!"

So your opinions ? Add some funny things your trainers have said to you.

The trainers that I can't seem to work with are the ones that point out al the negatives and none of the positives.

They are perfectionists and seem to take you not grasping the concept right away personally and just become angrier and more frustrated. And end up making you think your are worthless.

A good trainer knows how to explain things in different ways to allow for different types of learning (ie: hands on learning,reading,visual)

George Morris (though I respect his riding and training GREATLY!) is a trainer who I might not get along with well...lol I have heard of instances of him making riders cry... I do not concentrate well when upset.

Tell me firmly but not angrily. You can also be sarcastic in a fun spirited way. But not in a intentionally hurtful way.
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post #2 of 17 Old 08-31-2011, 02:25 PM
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Any trainer that tries to make me cry (whether successful or not) would not get paid and may find their breeches full of sand!! Hahhaa
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I learned from many straight shooters. I prefer it that way. Don't sugar coat it, tell me what I screwed up and how to fix it and let's be on our way.

Some gems I've heard over the years:

When I was probably 7 or 8, Paul Schuh (RIP) told me that I was made for the horse business because "Kid, you must've been vaccinated with a phonograph needle".

Another dear friend & mentor gave me the best critique statement EVER. "He's well balanced. He's ugly all over."

And then there is "Are you going to shut up & ride that horse or do you want me to do it for you?" Courtesy of my mom. She also loved to say "If it doesn't hurt, you aren't doing it right." or "That'll teach ya to listen to me" when I caught my toe in the fence and got ripped off my horse right after she finished preaching that my toes were out...

Life is like a camera. Focus on what's important, Capture the good times, Develop from the negatives and if things don't work out, Take another shot.
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Another dear friend & mentor gave me the best critique statement EVER. "He's well balanced. He's ugly all over."
lol Ohh I am so stealing this.. it is fantastic.

I like sarcastic trainers and it's probably because I'm fairly sarcastic myself. Favorite ones that I've heard...

"Go ahead and pull his mouth like that again, and I'll laugh when you hit the dirt"

"Yeah, you sure are a good rider. You'll be really graceful when you fall off"

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I learned from many straight shooters. I prefer it that way. Don't sugar coat it, tell me what I screwed up and how to fix it and let's be on our way.

Some gems I've heard over the years:

When I was probably 7 or 8, Paul Schuh (RIP) told me that I was made for the horse business because "Kid, you must've been vaccinated with a phonograph needle".

Another dear friend & mentor gave me the best critique statement EVER. "He's well balanced. He's ugly all over."

And then there is "Are you going to shut up & ride that horse or do you want me to do it for you?" Courtesy of my mom. She also loved to say "If it doesn't hurt, you aren't doing it right." or "That'll teach ya to listen to me" when I caught my toe in the fence and got ripped off my horse right after she finished preaching that my toes were out...

One VERY sarcastic german trainer said to me once(in very HEAVY german accent) after I told him I was riding "Ride with your ass not with your mouth!" I LOVE IT!

He also told me in preparation for riding; "your horse is getting shorter he is standing in cross ties so long!"

Also another trainer to a girl dressed like she was doing a dover catalog shoot " who are you? The fashion police? "

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one VERY sarcastic german trainer said to me once(in very HEAVY german accent) after I told him I was riding "Ride with your ass not with your mouth!" I LOVE IT!
Going to file this one away, that's great!!!!!

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I got told my horse wouldn't disappear from under me if I stopped staring down at him (rather than just "head up"). That comment has stuck with me more than years of "head up, head up" from other trainers.

I love sarcasm but I'm pretty sarcastic myself so...
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I need some sugar and am not afraid to admit it. I'm sensitive; I can't take constant "you're doing X awfully. Sit back! Heels down!" and would cry in response to something like, "Sit LIGHTLY! You're sitting like a sack of rocks! Wow, I wonder why your horse is so hollow backed." I can't understand sarcasm. I have to be actively looking for it to detect it. Otherwise, it flies over my head.

My trainer uses the three criticisms and a compliment method. "You need to do A this way, B this way, C this way. Good, good, keep trying... Your hands look nice."

Call me a weakling and critize my need for "sugar coating", but I'm not going to lie. Sarcastic, blunt trainers do not help me.
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post #9 of 17 Old 08-31-2011, 05:27 PM
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I don't like sarcasm. I'd prefer a trainer just says things straight up, you don't need humour to be nice. Humour kind of makes me uncomfortable in many situations, I don't feel its really appropriate because a trainer isn't our friend, they are someone who's services we are purchasing.
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Sarcasm is OK with me BUT up to the certain limit. While there is a "friendly" sarcasm (which I can put up with and keep it to myself), there is also quite nasty sarcasm making you feel like an idiot. If latter - I never return to that trainer. BTW, sarcasm doesn't break any "ice" for me, it in fact makes me feel rather uncomfortable (when I hear it from someone I'm paying for the service, and quite a lot).

My trainer is not sugar-coated. But I much rather work with someone going after me and my horse hard and straight and teaching/correcting me than someone all nice and flowers and butterflies and you go nowhere.

"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass: it's about learning to dance in the rain..."

"When we are no longer able to change a situation - we are challenged to change ourselves."

"How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours."
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