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post #1 of 39 Old 10-08-2010, 11:23 PM Thread Starter
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Seabiscuit v. Secretariat

Just saw Secretariat (was pretty good, but it didn't really move me like I expect most racehorse movies to), was looking at IMDB and found a few interesting threads- like Seabiscuit v. Secretariat-who do you think would've won in a match race?

A lot of interesting points were brought up, such as Sec. Having an enormous heart (someone said 3x the size of a normal horse, but I don't know how accurate that is), Seabiscuit being able to psych his competitors out, and their racing styles. Others said Pharlap or Man O' War would've beat them.

I won't pretend to know much about racehorses- that's why I'm posting here.
Who do you think would've won?
I really want to hear everyone's opinions!
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post #2 of 39 Old 10-09-2010, 05:35 AM
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Pharlap.

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haha go Pharlap :)
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post #4 of 39 Old 10-09-2010, 08:38 AM Thread Starter
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Reasons why? :)
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LOL, PharLap was Australian (look at the members who posted!).

I saw the movie last night and enjoyed it. Since I lived through it, and knew how it turned out, it wasn't as stirring as the other two movies but it was a good night out.

As for who would win, I think a toss up between Big Red and Pharlap. Both horses were enigmas. Interesting that none of Secretariat's get did anything note worthy.

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Ah, that explains it. :)

I think I felt the same- I knew what was going to happen. The only part I didn't expect was the mouth abscess- but even then it didn't scare me because I knew what was going to happen.
Thanks for the input! :)
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I think that since most people know Secretariats story, the movie makers are trying to play up Penny's role, thus making it new. I am going to guess it takes the focus off the horse, which is not something that should be done to a superstar like Secretariat.

And it is accurate that Big Red's heart was larger than normal.... google Secretariat'e heart...... Normal horse heart= 8.5lbs. Secretariat's heart= approximately 22lbs. Sham's heart= 18lbs. Apparently a big heart is something passed down the female side of genetics pool so of course his get would not have the same large organ....

As for who would win...... I am thinking that Secretariat would- he would let Seabiscuit play with him a bit until the far turn, and then, as always, he would take off :)

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That's interesting about the heart being passed through the mare! I didn't know that. :)
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I saw the movie last night and I really liked it. I knew the story but I still got a tad choked up during the Derby and Belmont.
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Aw Sunny! :) I was very surprised I wasn't moved by the movie- most horse movies I absolutely bawl.
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