Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj View Post
I'm very eager to see it.
I have been a diehard Man O' War fan all my life. I think it really boils down to a Man O' War VS Secretariat when you're talking world's most famous/well known racehorses. It reminds me of Team Edward and Team Jacob, LOL.
I've read Walter Farley's version of Man O' War, and I think that's a huge factor. I'm extremely interested to see if Secretariat's story moves me to sway my opinion at all.
I also hold Man O' War in high regard because he was a good SIRE. Seabiscuit and Secretariat were freak flukes - Man O' War was the real deal. I measure the greatness of a horse not by what he is, but what he has done. Man O' Wars influence on the Thoroughbred breed is almost tangible - he was a magnificent racehorse, but he was a legendary sire.
Maybe they'll make a Man O' War movie next.
The problem with comparing horses is they came from different times and ran on surfaces that have gotten better and better through the years.
Seabuscuit never ran the triple crown because of circumstances that occurred when most horse were preparing their horses for that race Seabuscuit was considered too lazy and the people that brought him around came too late. They all ran on dirt tracks that were nowhere near as good as they are now.
What lowers him in my opinion is that he couldn't pass any of his greatness on to the next or following generations.
Secretariat was a great horse but again he ran on better track than Man O'War did so by comparison I would give the edge to Man O'War.
As far as breeding again maybe Man O'War as he was able to pass his greatness DIRECTLY to the first generation but remember that not all horses pass their stuff to the first generation and Secretariate did his best genetic passing through his grandsons and grand daughters through mostly his FEMALE offspring.
Phar Lap really was a freak of nature. Great race horse but was a gelding so we would never know what he might have produced and his untimely death killed any chance of knowing what he would have done racing wise in North America.
Ruffian...I saw the actual race as it unfolded...so very very sad.
Originally Posted by horseluver2435 View Post
Really, Northern Dancer? I can't say I've heard of him, I'd love to hear others opinions on him.
Then you need to read about TB more.
Northern dancer has been without a doubt the most prolific breeding sire in the last half century. Virtually EVERY TB out there carries his bloodline. In the breeders stake over the last few years 90 % of all contestants carried his blood ( remember in one race they confirmed that EVERY horse had his blood within the last 2 generations). It is in France, England, Japan and Middle East. His sons are spread over the world and they themselves are multiple stakes winners and have produced multiple stakes winners. His sons or grand sons/daughters won every top prestigious race in the world.
Won 2 of the three American triple crown and who knows ..may have won the Preakness as the jockey was told NEVER to hit the horse but the jockey did hit him. He also developed a quarter crack just before the Preakness. Not 3 weeks later he won the Queen's Plate.
To me Northern Dancer in ALL aspects comes out on top.