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    View Poll Results: Do you agree with FHOTD?(please explain)
    Yes. 25 44.64%
    No. 19 33.93%
    Don't know enough about it. 6 10.71%
    Don't care. 6 10.71%
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        03-28-2008, 01:15 AM
      #21
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FehrGroundRanch
    We all know about the problems in the horse economy, or at least we should if we are into horses. Why should we read about them on some know it all's blog.
    Actually... a lot of people DON'T know this! And it's those people she's going after. There are a LOT of idiot 'breeders' out there. I personally enjoy the blog. No, I don't always agree with all of it. But it's all been said already. She goes after the breeders that breed crap with crap and end up with more crap that are now being shipped to Mexico. I think she sincerly cares about rescuing horses and this is her way of getting the word out. Yes, her words are caustic and at times unnecessarily harsh but can anyone on here say that they've done more to get the word out on over breeding/poor breeding then she has? (maybe you can, I don't know! But I do know she sure does a heck of a lot more then me!) And you have to admit, some of the things that she's posted on there are just unbelievable! There are a LOT of really unintelligent people out there!
         
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        03-28-2008, 11:41 AM
      #22
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by My2Geldings
    I agree with what has been said. She should be given a better pass time than to post people's horses on the web like that.

    I would love to see the horses she owns.
    She doesn't really have anything against bad horses, she has something against people breeding bad horses. That means that most of the time I don't have any sympathy towards the people whose horses she critiques. It is not like it will hurt the horses feelings.

    So I don't think there is a reason why people should see the horses she owns... Besides her rescues are most likely "fugly" and she knows it. She isn't being a hypocrite.

    At least she is a good owner and does good and that blog does more good than bad. Saved horses are more important than hurt feelings.
         
        03-28-2008, 01:41 PM
      #23
    Trained
    Good owner? How do you know that? Have you been to her house to see her horses? Are they fed and healthy and happy? Well unless you have seen her horses personally you can't know.

    Another thing, some people breed fuglies just to keep the foals for themselves. Who cares why they do? Why should we care what they choose to breed and why? We shouldn't. I believe in freedom to do what you want to do, without being run down for it.
         
        03-28-2008, 01:55 PM
      #24
    Weanling
    We have seen numerous pictures of her horses. Now her identity is 'outed' there are several people who can vouch for her who know her personally. She is a known figure in rescue circles and is respected by other reputable rescues such as TB friends. No, no one has seen her horses in person, that's silly, but they (even the real oldies) look fantastic

    And yes, I do care when people breed fuglies for their own keeping. For one, there is NO WAY they can guaruntee they will be able to keep that horse for the rest of its life. No way. And as soon as they are unable to secure its future through one of any number of circumstances, that horse is as subject to the open market as much as any other. Secondly, it's still adding to the massive overpopulation. Breeding yet another pointless, do-nothing nothing-special foal is taking away the chance of life from another you could have picked up at the auction for WAY less than it costs to breed responsibly. There's no point to it.
         
        03-28-2008, 02:19 PM
      #25
    Trained
    Pictures lie! Just because the pictures look good, doesn't mean they do.

    Why should you care. What ever happened to a free world..geesh!

    Are we becoming Communist!
         
        03-28-2008, 02:24 PM
      #26
    Weanling
    Er...ok. The 'communist' thing was odd.

    I don't care what people do, unless it affects the welfare of other living things. Then, no one has any place ranting on about a 'free world'.

    Now that FHOTD's IRL identity is known, any lying through pictures would quickly be discovered, and god knows people have tried hard enough.
         
        03-28-2008, 04:45 PM
      #27
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kyani

    And yes, I do care when people breed fuglies for their own keeping. For one, there is NO WAY they can guaruntee they will be able to keep that horse for the rest of its life. No way. And as soon as they are unable to secure its future through one of any number of circumstances, that horse is as subject to the open market as much as any other. Secondly, it's still adding to the massive overpopulation. Breeding yet another pointless, do-nothing nothing-special foal is taking away the chance of life from another you could have picked up at the auction for WAY less than it costs to breed responsibly. There's no point to it.
    Totally agree!!
         
        03-29-2008, 01:01 AM
      #28
    Started
    Everyone has the right to their opinions BUT you can be honest without being completely rude. I have no RIGHT to judge her...just as she has no right to judge those horses and their owners. I only wish that she wouldn't care so much about it. They aren't yours, therefore, mind your own business. That's what kind of thing I see it as mostly.

    JDI, all out of curiousity, why did you delete your posts? Feel free to PM me... :)
         
        03-29-2008, 04:27 AM
      #29
    Yearling
    You guys are fine right now, but just because this is such a sensitive topic, I want to give a friendly reminder to keep it nice. I know everyone is capable of having a respectful and mature discussion about this. :) :)
         
        03-29-2008, 04:56 AM
      #30
    Yearling
    I just wanted to bring up the point that there are back yard bred, ugly, mutt horses out there that will have a better chance in the open market than some well bred horses. I say this because training, disposition, care, and overall upbringing can play a huge role in the desirability of a horse.

    Obviously I am not saying this is always, or even often the case, but it is one of the ways things may play out, and should be considered when ridiculing people for breeding their backyard horses for some sentimental reason. There are people out there who plan to raise the foal and keep it....they put effort and knowledge into raising and training it...and if their circumstances change, they work hard to place it well, but they have no problems doing that because it is a great kids horse/4H horse/family horse/trail horse/beginners horse, etc.

    Then there are those huge ranches with really high quality stock, that put out more foals each year than they ever have any intention of working with or keeping (in hopes of getting that next superstar horse). Some of these foals will end up with socialization issues, attitude problems, and lack of training, and may spend much of their lives being shuffled from one place to another...possibly meeting the much undesirable end associated with the backyard bred horse.

    Again, I am not saying what I described is the majority situation, but it must be considered because it does happen. Not all situations fit the overall issue in the market, and there are responsible people out there who are undeservedly being persecuted as a result of it all.

    That all being said, I think with the problems of today's horse market, people need to educate themselves and do the research before deciding to breed their horses (registered or not). I also think it is the responsibility of every horse owner and breeder to properly train or pay for proper training of their horses to give them every chance at a good life should they need to be sold. I also think in general it is better to breed good quality, registered horses or at least marketable mixes...but there are exceptions to every generality.

    Anyhoo, that is my 2 cents on the overall topic...if someone has been educated by her site enough to prevent a bad situation for some horse, she has done some good - despite the fact that she can be very tactless, and that people (myself included) certainly don't agree with everything she has to say.
         

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