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        02-07-2012, 08:52 AM
      #11
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by thesilverspear    
    MysticL did say several posts ago that if this were her horse, she would have him euthanised, but he's not and she said that the owner won't do it.
    I realize it, silver, I was validating her opinion.
         
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        02-07-2012, 08:53 AM
      #12
    Foal
    We had to put a canine down who behaved similarly. Im pretty new to horse ownership, but Im one of those that think most any animal can be taught to trust. The red long-haired chihuahua we had to euthanize didn't get toothy with me, just with the other vet techs that came at her too strongly... but I digress.

    I know I suggested working this horse, HARD, but if he isn't a prime match for the person who owns him, he is only bound to get even worse... He's probably miserable, always trying, full-tilt, to prove he's the boss to every human he ever meets; and it's probably doubly stressful to him when someone he doesnt know or trust tries to de-throne him by moving his feet... Euthanasia is the easy choice, but rehab for him sounds like a long and weary road. And he'll probably only ever behave for the person who manages to be his leader. Hm. A sad tale, to be sure.
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        02-07-2012, 09:09 AM
      #13
    Trained
    I think the BO is taking a huge risk by having this horse remain. IMO, it is the BO's responsiblity to talk to the owner and have the horse dismissed from the barn. Whether the owner will be able to find another barn or not. How many other horses / owners are at the barn? Surely all the other people there feel the same way? Haven't the other owners spoken with the BO? Surely other people are considering leaving if this horse isn't dealt with? I know I would be looking around.
         
        02-07-2012, 09:15 AM
      #14
    Weanling
    Sadly his owner is very soft and only hopes to "save" him all the time. Once he is under saddle he is manageable exceptfor the faces he pulls at everyone and everything but on the ground he is dangerous.

    I am unfortunately not a minor or I would love to be able to have mom and dad say someting for me!

    The BO teaches a lot of children, that's her specialty, im scared one of them get in his way and they are often new to riding. I am in a slightly better position in that I can read his body language (when Im looking which in this case I was not because he was so far away and I never thought he would charge from that distance).

    The BO seriously dislikes the horse and has said something to the owner but it is not her decision either. I am just afraid someone gets hurt. Someone mentioned a dog...he reminds me of a rabid dog.
         
        02-07-2012, 09:20 AM
      #15
    Foal
    There seems to be an awful lot going wrong in this situation. First, you have a horse who appears to think (rightly?) that he's boss over the owner. Now he's testing whether other humans can be bossed around. Next, you have a BO who doesn't seem to realize or care that boarders are being endangered. I'd approach the BO and other boarders with your concerns. It sounds as if this horse's owner just isn't on the ball. It's not a good thing to give horsey a 2nd chance if people are endangered.


    For yourself, I'd either make sure that horse was gone, or I'd find another place. You're in danger there and without the BO's help there isn't much you can do.
         
        02-07-2012, 09:20 AM
      #16
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MysticL    
    Sadly his owner is very soft and only hopes to "save" him all the time. Once he is under saddle he is manageable exceptfor the faces he pulls at everyone and everything but on the ground he is dangerous.

    I am unfortunately not a minor or I would love to be able to have mom and dad say someting for me!

    The BO teaches a lot of children, that's her specialty, im scared one of them get in his way and they are often new to riding. I am in a slightly better position in that I can read his body language (when Im looking which in this case I was not because he was so far away and I never thought he would charge from that distance).

    The BO seriously dislikes the horse and has said something to the owner but it is not her decision either. I am just afraid someone gets hurt. Someone mentioned a dog...he reminds me of a rabid dog.
    I would STRONGLY disagree with this. The BO has HUGE liability and has some responsibility to keep people-especially those kids-safe! She really needs to give this owner notice that this guy needs to go elsewhere. If her insurance company gets wind of this she could lose her coverage, and if something happens-even WITH insurance she could lose the whole farm! Is it really worth it to her? She seriously needs a backbone!
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        02-07-2012, 09:24 AM
      #17
    Foal
    Exactly. It's totally BO's decision who stays at her barn. Nice lady needs a big reality check.
         
        02-07-2012, 09:26 AM
      #18
    Showing
    He sounds like a candidate for the pink needle to me.

    I'm quite surprised the BO allows that kind of liability on the property. Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.

    Unfortunately MysticL, I don't see much you can do about it aside from moving yourself if the BO isn't willing to step up and deal with it.
         
        02-07-2012, 09:26 AM
      #19
    Trained
    I agree with FnBeans. The BO needs to take on responsibility. It is not the BO's decision whether the horse should be euthanized or not, but it *is* the BO's decision whether the horse stays at the barn.
         
        02-07-2012, 10:01 AM
      #20
    Weanling
    Thanks for all the input, Im going to have a serious talk with the BO when I next see her as tell her my fears and see what she says. Im also going to chat to the owner as soon as I see her and tell her what happened.

    You are all right, the BO will be liable should something serious happen.

    I have leased there for a while but I only purchased my own horse a few weeks ago and I don't really want to move him when he is only just settling in. But if push comes to shove I guess I might need to.
         

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