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    05-10-2012, 02:16 AM
  #31
Green Broke
I don't like Brumbies being killed and I do think that there are better ways to manage the problem, because there definitely is a problem, just no one is willing to foot the bill.

Although, I am pretty as sad to see a kangaroo or any other animal die as I am to see a Brumby. They're just another animal, I don't think we should treat them any different to other ones. But I don't like any animal killed.

If he had killed it quickly I am somewhat glad, I think the aerial culling is completely awful.
     
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    05-10-2012, 02:38 AM
  #32
Trained
The aerial culling, while it isn't always clean, is the only effective way to manage the brumbies. They are spread so far, over such rough country, that it really is impossible to effectively control them any other way. To muster them up to cull would only cause them more pain and suffering - think of the terror of being chased, over ground that is less than ideal for running. Then you are caught, trapped in a holding yard, while hundreds more strange horses are pressed into the yards too. Then the horses have to be transported for culling - I am fairly sure that in Australia it is not on to cull horses in a holding yard. I know that horses that are being dogged MUST be PTS in a room separate and visually away from any other horse, and I am fairly sure this would apply to mustered brumbies being culled.

In the end, while the aerial culls don't look pretty, and sometimes are not clean kills, they are still the most humane and viable option we have.
     
    05-10-2012, 02:43 AM
  #33
Trained
Saskia, money is ALWAYS the problem. What would you propose we do, other than culling? It would be lovely to see them all round up and living out their lives in big grassy paddocks being looked after, then leaving a small 'novelty' herd out in the snowies for the tourists. But is that realistic?
Money, space, people power... it just wouldn't happen. There's just not enough money or homes, for tens of thousands of feral horses - look at how many thoroughbred and standardbred wastage there is each year already. You can get yourself a young trialed racer for less than a brumby adoption, when the brumby needs a huge amount of work done vs the racer.

CUlling unfortunately is the only realistic solution. Same for kangaroos, its sad to be killing an Australian icon, but otherwise they end up eating themselves out of house and home. Leaving their population unchecked would be disasterous.
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    05-10-2012, 07:27 AM
  #34
Green Broke
I know there isn't enough homes and that, already, many horses are killed. And to be honest, while it makes me sad, it's no sadder than any other animals that are killed.

I know there are hardly any practical solutions, but I think the idea of shooting them from the air and leaving them to die, slowly, is awful to the extent that is shouldn't be an option. Surely, they could get riders/people on bikes, to go down there and clean up the kills. Yes, it would cost them, but I think it's worth it. I, for one, wouldn't mind paying increased taxes to cover things such as this. They could offer some financial incentives for trainers/stock people to herd them up, train them a little and sell them on. There are plenty government scholarships and grants to a range of people in a range of things, such as art, music, academics, sports etc, I don't see why there would be a problem getting something like that. Perhaps sterilisation programs.

I know the racing industry is already wasteful, that is another problem, I feel, but not one we are addressing here.

I'm not naive, and I know it's a complex issue, but I don't think killing any animal in a way that causes them prolonged suffering should ever be an option.
     
    05-10-2012, 09:08 AM
  #35
Trained
The majority of aerial kill shots are clean. It's the minority that make it onto Today Tonight, and while it's horrible that it's not quick and painless 100% of the time, it's just so huge a job
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    05-10-2012, 09:50 AM
  #36
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Chiilaa    
The aerial culling, while it isn't always clean, is the only effective way to manage the brumbies. They are spread so far, over such rough country, that it really is impossible to effectively control them any other way. To muster them up to cull would only cause them more pain and suffering - think of the terror of being chased, over ground that is less than ideal for running. Then you are caught, trapped in a holding yard, while hundreds more strange horses are pressed into the yards too. Then the horses have to be transported for culling - I am fairly sure that in Australia it is not on to cull horses in a holding yard. I know that horses that are being dogged MUST be PTS in a room separate and visually away from any other horse, and I am fairly sure this would apply to mustered brumbies being culled.

In the end, while the aerial culls don't look pretty, and sometimes are not clean kills, they are still the most humane and viable option we have.
Good for Australia, you are doing it right including the slaughter in a separate room. We (USA) should follow your example.
     
    05-10-2012, 11:12 AM
  #37
Started
Shooting an animal is the quickest and cheapest way to control the population. Its no different then deer hunting in the states; heck the government doesnt even have to worry about spending money for it, there are plenty of people who go out each fall to hunt. Actually, the states make money off of it by selling permits and licenses.
     
    05-10-2012, 02:08 PM
  #38
Yearling
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Originally Posted by wyominggrandma    
Again, this happened in australia... Not in USA, so BLM has nothing to do with this story.....
I must have missed that important detail.

But regardless, after reading the thread, and the posts from Kayty and the others who live in Australia, I think I was right on track with saying it is okay to shoot them if they are a nuisance or causing damage, no matter what country they are in.
     
    05-10-2012, 02:23 PM
  #39
Weanling
Years ago.. quarter horse breeders would kill them because they thought of them as savages, un pure and didnt want a foal coming out that way, I hate it.... and I don't adopt mustangs because of what the gov, do to them... trust me at least this guy shot and killed her... do you know the government rounds them up using helocopters foals and horses alike get there hooves ran off them and drop dead? I hate all of it!
     
    05-10-2012, 03:00 PM
  #40
Started
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Originally Posted by greenbryerfarms    
years ago.. quarter horse breeders would kill them because they thought of them as savages, un pure and didnt want a foal coming out that way, I hate it.... and I don't adopt mustangs because of what the gov, do to them... trust me at least this guy shot and killed her... do you know the government rounds them up using helocopters foals and horses alike get there hooves ran off them and drop dead? I hate all of it!
*sigh* please educate yourself with information from reputable sources and then take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt before forming an opinion.
     

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