Shooting a wild horse - Page 4 - The Horse Forum

 31Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #31 of 55 Old 05-10-2012, 02:16 AM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New South Wales, Australia
Posts: 4,753
• Horses: 1
I don't like Brumbies being killed and I do think that there are better ways to manage the problem, because there definitely is a problem, just no one is willing to foot the bill.

Although, I am pretty as sad to see a kangaroo or any other animal die as I am to see a Brumby. They're just another animal, I don't think we should treat them any different to other ones. But I don't like any animal killed.

If he had killed it quickly I am somewhat glad, I think the aerial culling is completely awful.
Saskia is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #32 of 55 Old 05-10-2012, 02:38 AM
Trained
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 5,153
• Horses: 0
The aerial culling, while it isn't always clean, is the only effective way to manage the brumbies. They are spread so far, over such rough country, that it really is impossible to effectively control them any other way. To muster them up to cull would only cause them more pain and suffering - think of the terror of being chased, over ground that is less than ideal for running. Then you are caught, trapped in a holding yard, while hundreds more strange horses are pressed into the yards too. Then the horses have to be transported for culling - I am fairly sure that in Australia it is not on to cull horses in a holding yard. I know that horses that are being dogged MUST be PTS in a room separate and visually away from any other horse, and I am fairly sure this would apply to mustered brumbies being culled.

In the end, while the aerial culls don't look pretty, and sometimes are not clean kills, they are still the most humane and viable option we have.

Mods, grant me the serenity to see the opinions I cannot change, courage to change the ones that should change, and the wisdom to spot the trolls.
Chiilaa is offline  
post #33 of 55 Old 05-10-2012, 02:43 AM
Trained
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 8,175
• Horses: 3
Saskia, money is ALWAYS the problem. What would you propose we do, other than culling? It would be lovely to see them all round up and living out their lives in big grassy paddocks being looked after, then leaving a small 'novelty' herd out in the snowies for the tourists. But is that realistic?
Money, space, people power... it just wouldn't happen. There's just not enough money or homes, for tens of thousands of feral horses - look at how many thoroughbred and standardbred wastage there is each year already. You can get yourself a young trialed racer for less than a brumby adoption, when the brumby needs a huge amount of work done vs the racer.

CUlling unfortunately is the only realistic solution. Same for kangaroos, its sad to be killing an Australian icon, but otherwise they end up eating themselves out of house and home. Leaving their population unchecked would be disasterous.
kevinshorses and Rascaholic like this.

~Horse & Hound Artistry~.

Website: www.horseandhoundartistry.com
Kayty is offline  
post #34 of 55 Old 05-10-2012, 07:27 AM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New South Wales, Australia
Posts: 4,753
• Horses: 1
I know there isn't enough homes and that, already, many horses are killed. And to be honest, while it makes me sad, it's no sadder than any other animals that are killed.

I know there are hardly any practical solutions, but I think the idea of shooting them from the air and leaving them to die, slowly, is awful to the extent that is shouldn't be an option. Surely, they could get riders/people on bikes, to go down there and clean up the kills. Yes, it would cost them, but I think it's worth it. I, for one, wouldn't mind paying increased taxes to cover things such as this. They could offer some financial incentives for trainers/stock people to herd them up, train them a little and sell them on. There are plenty government scholarships and grants to a range of people in a range of things, such as art, music, academics, sports etc, I don't see why there would be a problem getting something like that. Perhaps sterilisation programs.

I know the racing industry is already wasteful, that is another problem, I feel, but not one we are addressing here.

I'm not naive, and I know it's a complex issue, but I don't think killing any animal in a way that causes them prolonged suffering should ever be an option.
Saskia is offline  
post #35 of 55 Old 05-10-2012, 09:08 AM
Trained
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Posts: 5,153
• Horses: 0
The majority of aerial kill shots are clean. It's the minority that make it onto Today Tonight, and while it's horrible that it's not quick and painless 100% of the time, it's just so huge a job
HowClever likes this.

Mods, grant me the serenity to see the opinions I cannot change, courage to change the ones that should change, and the wisdom to spot the trolls.
Chiilaa is offline  
post #36 of 55 Old 05-10-2012, 09:50 AM
Trained
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Palmyra, Wisconsin
Posts: 5,709
• Horses: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiilaa View Post
The aerial culling, while it isn't always clean, is the only effective way to manage the brumbies. They are spread so far, over such rough country, that it really is impossible to effectively control them any other way. To muster them up to cull would only cause them more pain and suffering - think of the terror of being chased, over ground that is less than ideal for running. Then you are caught, trapped in a holding yard, while hundreds more strange horses are pressed into the yards too. Then the horses have to be transported for culling - I am fairly sure that in Australia it is not on to cull horses in a holding yard. I know that horses that are being dogged MUST be PTS in a room separate and visually away from any other horse, and I am fairly sure this would apply to mustered brumbies being culled.

In the end, while the aerial culls don't look pretty, and sometimes are not clean kills, they are still the most humane and viable option we have.
Good for Australia, you are doing it right including the slaughter in a separate room. We (USA) should follow your example.
natisha is offline  
post #37 of 55 Old 05-10-2012, 11:12 AM
Started
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,824
• Horses: 0
Shooting an animal is the quickest and cheapest way to control the population. Its no different then deer hunting in the states; heck the government doesnt even have to worry about spending money for it, there are plenty of people who go out each fall to hunt. Actually, the states make money off of it by selling permits and licenses.

This is what happens when you have democrats in office
wetrain17 is offline  
post #38 of 55 Old 05-10-2012, 02:08 PM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 866
• Horses: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by wyominggrandma View Post
Again, this happened in australia... Not in USA, so BLM has nothing to do with this story.....
I must have missed that important detail.

But regardless, after reading the thread, and the posts from Kayty and the others who live in Australia, I think I was right on track with saying it is okay to shoot them if they are a nuisance or causing damage, no matter what country they are in.

** Don't be the rider who gallops all night and never sees the horse that is beneath him **
Lakotababii is offline  
post #39 of 55 Old 05-10-2012, 02:23 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: vandalia il
Posts: 268
• Horses: 3
years ago.. quarter horse breeders would kill them because they thought of them as savages, un pure and didnt want a foal coming out that way, I hate it.... and I don't adopt mustangs because of what the gov, do to them... trust me at least this guy shot and killed her... do you know the government rounds them up using helocopters foals and horses alike get there hooves ran off them and drop dead? I hate all of it!

When he ran the ground shook...
...so we partied our way to victory...
.-.-.-.-.- <3 splash <3 .-.-.-.-.-
greenbryerfarms is offline  
post #40 of 55 Old 05-10-2012, 03:00 PM
Started
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,539
• Horses: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by greenbryerfarms View Post
years ago.. quarter horse breeders would kill them because they thought of them as savages, un pure and didnt want a foal coming out that way, I hate it.... and I don't adopt mustangs because of what the gov, do to them... trust me at least this guy shot and killed her... do you know the government rounds them up using helocopters foals and horses alike get there hooves ran off them and drop dead? I hate all of it!
*sigh* please educate yourself with information from reputable sources and then take EVERYTHING with a grain of salt before forming an opinion.
crimsonsky is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tips for training horse for mounted shooting sherie Horse Training 5 07-07-2011 08:27 AM
Pony shooting in PA Supermane Horse Protection 8 12-28-2010 01:53 AM
Wild Horses, Wild Dolphin video Pinto Pony Horse Videos 6 04-14-2010 03:38 AM
Shooting Stars RegalCharm General Off Topic Discussion 2 10-21-2009 04:51 PM
Man vs wild and "wild" horse blossom856 Horse Videos 20 10-15-2009 06:36 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome