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        06-13-2012, 11:58 AM
      #21
    Trained
    Sorry I forgot to say that your little guy is gorgeous, all sorts of cute!
         
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        06-13-2012, 01:27 PM
      #22
    Banned
    Geld him.

    A wise man once told me ... "The minute you think you have what it takes to own, raise and train a stallion to be a PRODUCTIVE (key word here) member of the horse world is the minute you look at yourself in the mirror and decide to wait another five years. Wash, rinse, repeat in five years."

    Thanks Dad!!
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        06-13-2012, 02:21 PM
      #23
    Trained
    He looks really over at the knee, but I can't figure out if that's just a picture being taken a bad time or a conformation flaw.
    No harm in waiting for a year and a half though.
         
        06-13-2012, 02:50 PM
      #24
    Weanling
    My answer is no, geld him, but it's your horse. Stallions are a pita and I wouldn't deal with it. I would like to take issue, however, with the "the last thing the US.. or world.. or insert your country here, is more stallions/horses" Overbreeding is not my fault or your fault if all you are breeding is for your own herd or for a demand in the market. I am sorry, I am not interested in adopting a rescue/wild capture horse when what I want is a blooded quarterhorse. I didn't abuse, starve, or overbreed anything and I won't curtail my own herd building because some misguided animal lover let their herd overrun their pocketbook. I hate to see horses sent to slaughter, but I'd much rather see that than allowing horses to starve to death, because people are afraid of trying to do the right thing and either re-home the horse(which is getting danged hard to do) or as a last resort humanely euthanize it and dig a big fricken hole... (sorry rant off)

    Do what you want with your horse, just be prepared to deal with a stallion if you choose to leave him whole...
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        06-13-2012, 03:09 PM
      #25
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ilostmyzipper    
    How do I know if I should keep him a stallion?
    There's no reason to keep him a stallion. His bloodlines aren't rare, and there are plenty of stallions out there already with the same lineage.

    He'll be happier as a gelding, as well.
         
        06-13-2012, 03:09 PM
      #26
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WSArabians    
    He looks really over at the knee, but I can't figure out if that's just a picture being taken a bad time or a conformation flaw.
    No harm in waiting for a year and a half though.
    I'm thinking it is just the picture. Plus, foals always have that funky look about them. His legs should straighten up just fine.

    As per your question, OP, I would also want to know why you'd want to keep him intact. Do you have aspirations to have a breeding program or just a breeding stallion?
         
        06-13-2012, 03:44 PM
      #27
    Started
    I agree that gelding him is the best bet. As others have stated big name breeders are cutting back their own herds in this economy. It takes a lot of money to properly campaign and advertise a stallion. Then there's the cost of collecting semen, mare care, the risks of live cover ect. Bloodlines aren't everything, does he have stellar conformation, is he actually winning at the shows, are you willing to travel all over to take him to breed/rated shows? If you ever need to move, it will be hard to find a place that will take a stallion, trailering him will have its own issues, not putting him in with mares, making sure that if he is in with a gelding, that he's not spending the time trying to get at the gelding. Then there's figuring out how to "house" him at the shows, again you don't want him in a stall near mares, if there are no stalls, leaving him tied to the trailer is not the safest thing, who knows if someone will decide to walk a mare in heat around him.

    I really want to do breeding, but I want to find some place that is already established, has a client base, and knows what they are doing, where I can work my way up to breeding manager, I don't want to have my own personal stallion that I have to deal with, its just too much money and work and worry. That said, good luck, and keep pictures coming, he is adorable.
         
        06-13-2012, 05:53 PM
      #28
    Yearling
    I'd geld him as well! I've got a yearling APHA colt and he's a royal pain in my a**. Not that he behaves that badly, but he's just dropped and REALLY coming and growing into that studly attitude. He has no idea what's coming next Thursday and I can't wait! Even knowing how to handle a stallion there are a lot of issues that come into play and lots of $$$ for the most part when you own a stallion. I'd rather save my money now and continue my dream and I know I can do that just fine with an amazing gelding, not a stud!
         
        06-13-2012, 05:55 PM
      #29
    Super Moderator
    It takes a great stud colt to make a great gelding. The geldings are not only worth more than 90% of those left as studs, his chances of becoming a great performer are many times greater.

    Most people with stallions standing at stud are losing money. We look at the 1% or 2% of stallions that are currently popular. The other 98% are losing money. You have to send them to a big breeding center and the center with more than $1,000,000.00 invested in their facility will be the only one making money on them. We know cutting and reining stallions that won over $200,000.00 and their owners are losing money. The advertising and promotions they have to invest in each year, and the fees the breeding centers get for managing their stallion come to more than the stud fees. Most of them lose money.

    I say "Geld him and enjoy him!"
         
        06-13-2012, 06:43 PM
      #30
    Yearling
    While he would probably make a nice stallion, he would make an even better gelding.

    I vote for gelding.
         

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