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post #11 of 15 Old 06-14-2013, 11:56 AM
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You seem to have suffered from trainers who are too keen on you sitting in a 'pretty pose' and not focusing enough on effective riding
Contact with the horse via the bit (or bitless) should only be light but with no contact at all you wont be able to ask for any collection to shorten or lengthen the stride so any change of pace is just going to be about going faster (the horse will be running) or slower.
Think of the horse like a spring that you control between your legs and body moving it from behind into a light resisting hand to create impulsion and energy that you can gather in and release out - if this horse wont make any contact with the bit you can't do that
It was something I found in the show Arabians I rode one winter here.
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post #12 of 15 Old 06-14-2013, 02:24 PM
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Having a look around for a place that has more suitable lesson horses probably wouldn't be a bad idea.

The "lock your elbows" thing make complete sense to me, because I am one of those riders who tends to be too soft and following with my arms, which provides little to no support to the horse and makes them more inconsistent in the bridle because there's no steady contact from me. I really have to think about "glueing my elbows to my sides" and keeping still during the canter, and when I get it right, wow, what a difference! So while it's not something an instructor should go around telling everyone, I definitely understand why one would say something like that in certain instances to try get a point across!

I am glad someone mentioned this. I kind of doubt the instructor is saying "no movement" of the arm or hand, so that there is no following of the mouth. Getting your elbow connected to your body is important, and thinking of your seat moving up to your hands, instead of you hands moving back and forth, will help to put the horse on the bit.

Riding with two whips is something that was sometimes done (and maybe still is) in classical riding instruction.

If they are unwilling to put you on a new horse, that's something to discuss. Your own assessment of your ability and readiness to move on may or may not be accurate. The instructor may think you still have something to learn from that horse.

But, I haven't done school lessons in absolute ages, so I am not familiar with what is "normal" in school horses and group lessons, so I would agree that looking around to at least find out if what you have is pretty typical might not hurt.
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I am glad someone mentioned this. I kind of doubt the instructor is saying "no movement" of the arm or hand, so that there is no following of the mouth. Getting your elbow connected to your body is important, and thinking of your seat moving up to your hands, instead of you hands moving back and forth, will help to put the horse on the bit.

Riding with two whips is something that was sometimes done (and maybe still is) in classical riding instruction.

If they are unwilling to put you on a new horse, that's something to discuss. Your own assessment of your ability and readiness to move on may or may not be accurate. The instructor may think you still have something to learn from that horse.

But, I haven't done school lessons in absolute ages, so I am not familiar with what is "normal" in school horses and group lessons, so I would agree that looking around to at least find out if what you have is pretty typical might not hurt.
Tinyliny she did say that, and I wish it had been recorded.

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I asked the day before if I could be put on a new horse. The next day, I arrived there a bit early and she was quite upset with me for wanting a new horse. I tried to explain simply and she had said some things that were probably not intended to be rude but came across that way.. but I just smiled and she picked one out for me.

The mare I rode was completely opposite to the horse I usually ride. He is VERY forward. She is not.. not at all. She was a challenge but I enjoyed her a lot. Her gaits were very lofty and she has a tendency to drop her left shoulder but I took the advice of some here on the forum, and was able to handle that and get her night and straightened up.

As per usual, no one came with so I have no video but I did have... contact! I kept it at the trot and the canter. I tried not to pump but instead let the horse take my hands away and it was nice and soft and our lateral work was awesome.

The other riding school hasn't gotten back to me yet, so I will give it another few weeks till I get back with them, mainly so I can give this new horse a chance.

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Just got an email response. They say they can try to fit me in so I'll give that a go..

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post #15 of 15 Old 06-23-2013, 04:36 PM Thread Starter
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Hi all,

So I've decided to stop taking riding lessons every week because the barns closeby just aren't what I need.

However the trainer 2 hours away is exactly what I need so I'm hoping to go there every 3 weeks :)

Thanks for all the input!

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