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        02-04-2011, 07:31 PM
      #141
    Weanling
    Bah - why is it heartless to keep pets and then say that they could eat a horse and collect bones etc??. - I think it is a healthy outlook at life - theres nothing I hate more than those people that say "oooh , I can't eat that - it has a face" Im sorry , but vegetarians piss me off no end. I don't have any issue with people not eating meat , but don't throw it up in my face because of my life choices.


    Why is keeping horses as pets and they saying I could eat horse any more disgusting than keeping chickens as pets and then eating chicken , or cows , or fish or any other animal for that matter?

    It cracks me up when my 2 year old sees an animal and the first thing he says isnt 'look at that cute lamb/calf/chick etc etc' its 'can I eat that animal?' ..shortly followed by "Will daddy put that animal in the pan or in the oven?? - can I have sauce on it?"

    His priceless moment was when we went to see our friends new baby chicks and he came out with "Those chickens would be tasty in my mouth" much to the horror of his city slicker cousin.

    Honestly - we keep chickens as pets , and he knows that they are to be respected and that if we treat them nicely they will give us eggs - but he also knows that the meat birds are killed so that they can be eaten , he knows that 'Stew-it' our neighbours goat will end up as dinner. And, while he loved the sheep in the paddock while it was there , its pelt on the lounge room floor is his favorite place for a nap.

    In short - I think it is ridiculous to say that it is wrong to eat animals that are also kept as pets. So long as the animals are treated with respect and care while they are alive - I see no problem with it. The problem lies with people who do not understand it and try and victimize others for utlising another use for animals that others might consider pets.

    Would I eat my pet cat?? No, but I wouldn't condemn others should they choose to do so.
         
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        02-04-2011, 07:55 PM
      #142
    Started
    ^^^^ agreed!
         
        02-05-2011, 11:53 AM
      #143
    Foal
    Lol - I can't eat that, it has a face. I'm not veggie though, but don't like the bigger animal meats, ie. Steak and horsemeat.
         
        02-05-2011, 01:09 PM
      #144
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by armydogs    
    It is definitely a different culture over here. I will have to post pictures sometime soon.

    It all depends on how you treat them, and what you end up doing with them.
    Please don't.
    I've seen pictures of dogs with their front legs tied behind their backs, cans or wire around their jaws so they can't scream, stacked like cord wood. That's no way to treat any living creature-ever.
         
        02-06-2011, 07:31 PM
      #145
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scoope    
    Bah - why is it heartless to keep pets and then say that they could eat a horse and collect bones etc??. - I think it is a healthy outlook at life - theres nothing I hate more than those people that say "oooh , I can't eat that - it has a face" Im sorry , but vegetarians piss me off no end. I don't have any issue with people not eating meat , but don't throw it up in my face because of my life choices.

    Why is keeping horses as pets and they saying I could eat horse any more disgusting than keeping chickens as pets and then eating chicken , or cows , or fish or any other animal for that matter?
    I'm a vegetarian. No one else in my family is a vegetarian and my boyfriend (with whom I live) is also not a vegetarian. When I tell someone that I am a vegetarian I usually will get about 10 annoying questions about it. There are times when I order food from a waitress and say "no meat please" and guess what ends up in my pasta? A nice hunk of chicken! When I say "I don't eat anything that had a face, or that pooped* (*can inset other verbage here when appropriate)" it usually gets the point across pretty quickly. Otherwise, people simply do not listen. Not sure why MY life choices "piss you off" considering you are not involved. You know what pisses me off? When people try to put meat in your food to be *funny*. Perhaps it goes both ways?

    Don't feel like I need to comment on why I think eating horse is gross considering my paragraph above. There is something particularly disturbing to me about being ok with eating companion animals. Probably because I think it's sad that they trust us when they shouldn't.
         
        02-06-2011, 07:45 PM
      #146
    Weanling
    Vegetarians don't irritate me if they don't pass comment or try and make me feel bad for eating animals. Yes it does go both ways - I don't see why it is appropriate for people to comment to make you feel bad for being a vegetarian either. And im not trying to make you feel bad - im only expressing my feelings on my personal experience with vegetarians and vegetarianism.

    Like I said , peoples life choices are theirs and theirs alone, I don't think it is ok to try and press those choices on other people.

    I have lived in a house hold where one person was a vegetarian and no one else was. And to be frank it was a pain having to accommodate their dietary choices and so often I would make a salad and if they wanted somthing different than they can make it them selves (and so often we would cook a chicken , or make a lasagne and they would spend the entire meal making faces and looking like they had been slapped in the face with a wet fish) . Which in my opinion is fair enough.

    If you are ordering food and don't want meat - don't order something that contains meat! Then your problem wouldn't occur in the first place. If there are no vegetarian choices , then eat somewhere else. You make a problem for yourself by putting yourself in that position.

    I have a gluten allergy - I don't order a bread roll and say "oh , by the way - I don't want any wheat in it please" , someone with a dairy allergy dosn't order ice cream. If you don't want chicken , don't order something that has chicken in it.

    Anyway , just my opinion - take it with a grain of salt if you choose to.
         
        02-06-2011, 07:59 PM
      #147
    Weanling
    Okay. But consider what you've just posted. First you mention that peoples life choices are theirs and that they shouldn't be harassed to make any other choice. Then you're saying how annoying it is to deal with one because you have to put in extra work. Finally, you mention that I shouldn't go anywhere where there isn't a vegetarian choice. So what is it? Do I inconvenience my family by telling them that I won't go to the steakhouse or do I go and order a pasta without meat? You don't seem like you are trying to be rude or mean or aggressive but you've juxtaposed your post. I think the point that we agree on is that people have different choices and no one is the same. Perhaps I just read into your comment too far.
         
        02-06-2011, 08:31 PM
      #148
    Weanling
    If you order the pasta , and it has chicken in it - don't be suprised if it comes with chicken in it - unfortunately , that happens. Take the chicken out and don't eat it , but don't make a scene about it.

    Peoples life choices are theirs and they shouldent be harassed to make any other choice , but they shouldn't impose those on other people either. And if I am cooking dinner for 10 people , then yes cooking a separate dinner for one is an awful lot of extra work and a huge imposition on me. It makes me even less inclined to want to put the effort into making something special for them when they sit there making faces at the dinner I've cooked for everybody else. On the flip side , when we have friends over who are vegetarian (I no longer live with the vegetarian) we will often do a pot luck type thing , where we will bring one thing , and they will bring another and then we know that both dietary choices/needs are catered for - and no one feels like the HAVE to go out of their way. Believe me I know there is nothing more frustrating that trying to cater for a coeliac, so I don't expect people to.

    Maybe you could cook something vegetarian for your family to put on the table at dinner time and they could try it and see if they like it. Then you wouldn't have them waving it in your face , and you wouldn't be an imposition on whoever it is that has to cater for your choice. At the very least you would know that there was something tasty for you to eat! Which is always good IMO.

    My post is not juxtaposed at all, I do feel that you are reading into it in an attempt to see what you want to see. Which isnt there unfortunately. :)

    I never said don't go anywhere where there isnt a vegetarian choice. I said don't get pissed if you order something that has meat and it comes with meat, there are restaurants that cater for vegetarians and if you are eating somewhere that is clearly a place that serves meat dishes (like said steak house) whether that be your choice or not - don't get upset if things arnt catered exactly to you. Maybe you could suggest that your family try eating somewhere else for a change?? Not in a nasty way - just "Hey , weve eaten at this steak house before , why don't we try a different place next time?". Often when I go out to restaurants there is virtually nothing I can eat due to the presence of gluten. Not alot I can do about it , like I said in my above post - I can't order the roll and say 'no wheat please' , it doesn't work like that. I just have to like it or lump it - as do millions of other people for whatever reason.

    Im glad you see that I am not being rude, mean or aggressive - people do have different choices , and it is up to the person making that choice to deal with the consequence of it. Whether they be appealing or not is a different matter.
         
        02-06-2011, 08:39 PM
      #149
    Foal
    That is just sick! And horse rapings??? What is going on with our world?! This is horrible.
         

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