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post #31 of 42 Old 08-31-2012, 05:49 PM
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If you really like this horse I wouldn't give up and sell him as he was good before you moved him. If you can find a good trainer to help you work through your issues it helps tremendously. I was at one point afraid of Hunter and he knew it. It wasn't even fun to go to see him. I almost traded him away but my friend who is a trainer took him for a month and worked with him and then spent time with us having me work him and it has brought my confidence level right back up. I am no longer afraid of him (and he knows it). Now it is awesome because I board at her place and if I have any issues I ask her how to handle it.
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post #32 of 42 Old 08-31-2012, 06:14 PM
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Don't give up.

I agree, you know what he is capable of and even though it is frustrating, it is possible to get back there.

Don't give up!
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post #33 of 42 Old 08-31-2012, 07:55 PM
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What did you do when he acted out the first time?

From your description, it sounds like what happened was the horse got excited in his new environment, acted out, and when he wasn't disciplined, realized he could get away with it. Or did you discipline him? From the description, it sounds as thought you were a passive observer to his behavior.

If you didn't discipline him, that's probably why he's become so bad. The light bulb went off that if he wants to get excited and act naughty, he can get out of work.

If my guesses are correctly, you need to get after him, be assertive and confident dealing with him and prove to him you are the leader. If you don't feel confident, ask a trainer to come out and help you. Even a one time visit with a good trainer will help you and the horse.

This is just a speed bump in the road - you can work through this. He can still be your confidence building horses. This is your opportunity to step up and be confident.
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post #34 of 42 Old 08-31-2012, 08:05 PM
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Check his saddle fit.
Check for sore spots - he could have gotten into a fight with another horse and have a big bruise somewhere.

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post #35 of 42 Old 08-31-2012, 09:21 PM
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OK my 2 cents...I seriously doubt he was abused at a stable, but I would have him checked out, the trailer ride could have wrenched his back, but I really think it could be"Im not a very confident rider" at home you were relaxed, and no surprises...you move, you are a little excited just like he is, different surruoundings,people all that. It is an adjustment to be at a new place. The one thing about horses is YOU CANT LIE TO THEM!!! They can feel your energy before you get to the stall, now please do not misunderstand m I AM NOT calling you a liar, I'm just saying you may have walked up to him all"hi arrow how cool is this place" but in your head and your heart your in a new place trying to figure out the people and surrounding...you know all that. I have one that I can NOT hIDE ANYTHING from him NOTHING!! and he will act like a putz like that, he throws every single person that gets on him but me...why? he's big and black and from what everyone says is intimidating...I honest to god dont see it,but whatever! If I were you I would get trainer, then move him back,cuz you are NOT going to be able to show him if he is going to act like this away from home. Then you can make a more informed decision, but dont just give up on him...I promise you HE WOULD NEVER GIVE UP ON YOU! So think it threw, make alist of expectations, what are they realistically and go from there. Make Safety the first thing on your list, you cant do him any good if your hurt. Hope it helps.
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post #36 of 42 Old 08-31-2012, 10:00 PM
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I would suggest a simple test with a hoof pick....run it along his spine..not hard just light steady pressure..do it on each side...no response meaningless...a quirk, a flinch, a muscle jerk means he is in pain....doesn't have to be abuse..it can be as simple as a slip and pulling a muscle that can cause a great deal of pain, making behavior total seem wacko, especially under saddle but also on the ground...does not sound like a horse acting up...sounds like a horse reacting to something (more than likely pain from somewhere)

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post #37 of 42 Old 08-31-2012, 10:33 PM
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I would suggest a simple test with a hoof pick....run it along his spine..not hard just light steady pressure..do it on each side...no response meaningless...a quirk, a flinch, a muscle jerk means he is in pain....doesn't have to be abuse..it can be as simple as a slip and pulling a muscle that can cause a great deal of pain, making behavior total seem wacko, especially under saddle but also on the ground...does not sound like a horse acting up...sounds like a horse reacting to something (more than likely pain from somewhere)
For goodness sake do not ever use a hoof pick. A finger one side and thumb the other side of the spine will exert plenty enough pressure.

My argument against it being a pain issue is that the horse immediately lost all ground manners not just when ridden.
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post #38 of 42 Old 08-31-2012, 10:45 PM
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We won't know for sure unless you get a vet out there.

If the vet finds nothing wrong, get a trainer out.

You can self diagnose all you want, but you need a professional who can put their hands on this animal and can understand what he needs.

We can't really help you because you don't know how to help yourself in this situation. You need to find a professional who can assess the situation and give you a prognosis based on what they see in person.
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post #39 of 42 Old 09-01-2012, 06:04 PM
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For goodness sake do not ever use a hoof pick. A finger one side and thumb the other side of the spine will exert plenty enough pressure.

My argument against it being a pain issue is that the horse immediately lost all ground manners not just when ridden.
for goodness sake I have never hurt any horse with a hoof pick and LIGHT pressure...and you haven't met my mare who absolutely drools with lust the harder you scratch her....lol guess April would use bold print if her hooves could write more, more, harder please mom I loves it!...;)
OP really cool on your new horse she looks like a love!

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post #40 of 42 Old 09-01-2012, 07:51 PM
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maybe he got hurt during the move or something and he wasn't comfertable with you riding him and it hurt him

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