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    04-23-2012, 02:13 PM
  #11
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by rbarlo32    
Not trying to start arguments won't argue on others opinion just sharing mine.
Okay...so go ahead and share your opinion by explaining what, specifically, you find so objectionable...
     
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    04-23-2012, 02:16 PM
  #12
Yearling
Basically everything, it is not how I would train a baby. Personally a think a baby should be bitted at that age. That isn't how I have trained any of my guys to wear a rug. Not saying I am right and every one else is wrong just my opinion.
     
    04-23-2012, 02:19 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by rbarlo32    
Basically everything, it is not how I would train a baby. Personally a think a baby should be bitted at that age. That isn't how I have trained any of my guys to wear a rug. Not saying I am right and every one else is wrong just my opinion.
The bit doesn't hurt them any :) It just sits in their mouths really, and if you put a little bit of sugar on it you can REALLY teach them that the bit is a treat! It's a good training exercise for any age, specially a future riding horse. And teaching them to wear things? Well, sometimes they put up a fight. My mare as a 3 year old would fight and pull and try to bolt at the sight of her blanket, it took a little while, but after she worked her fight out and got the blanket on she was rewarded and is now the easiest horse to blanket.
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    04-23-2012, 02:25 PM
  #14
Trained
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Originally Posted by rbarlo32    
Basically everything, it is not how I would train a baby. Personally a think a baby should be bitted at that age. That isn't how I have trained any of my guys to wear a rug. Not saying I am right and every one else is wrong just my opinion.
Just because it is not how YOU would do it or fits with YOUR opinion does not make it abuse. Abuse is a very very strong word to use when you simply disagree with something that is not causing mental or physical pain to an animal.
     
    04-23-2012, 02:37 PM
  #15
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by rbarlo32    
Basically everything, it is not how I would train a baby. Personally a think a baby should be bitted at that age. That isn't how I have trained any of my guys to wear a rug. Not saying I am right and every one else is wrong just my opinion.
I think it is abusive to have a pony as fat as yourblack one in your photo and on your website. Look at all the weight on his skinny little legs. That is unhealthy and cruel. So things that you think are ok others do not.
     
    04-23-2012, 02:43 PM
  #16
Yearling
That was taken a couple of days after I got him and for his breed her really doesn't have skinny legs.
     
    04-23-2012, 02:45 PM
  #17
Started
I get the strong impression that these people do abuse their horses. If they're backing a 5 month old, it's a pretty good indication of what kind of horse people they are. You don't see legitimate trainers sitting on foals. Rushing a horse through training is abuse in my book.

The backing part is what has people so upset. I don't think it has much to do with the saddle and bridle.
     
    04-23-2012, 02:50 PM
  #18
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Well, some might not consider it abuse but I consider it exceedingly bad traumatic training.
I breed foals, they have very basic training in that they learn how to pick up their feet, lead and respect humans. Other than that they are left to be young horses until they are three.

They come and go to the field loose because it saves me time in haltering them all so basically the only time they have a halter on is when the farrier is here or the vet for inoculations. I can do what I want with them. I have just started three three year old home bred (TB and WBs) I have had no need to use a back strap, they have accepted the tack with no objection. In a week they are lungeing correctly (not in a round pen) they will follow me into the horsebox, I was leading them around large tractors and trailers today because they were removing the muck heap. No bother, no forcing, no worries on their behalf because they trust me.
That poor foal was traumatised and so mentally exhausted it did not have the energy to object to the woman sitting on it.

Maybe not cruelty in many eyes but some of the worse sort of training.
     
    04-23-2012, 03:19 PM
  #19
Trained
Yeah I had to go look...I'm fine with all of it apart from sitting on him, that is just ********** crazy.
     
    04-23-2012, 03:33 PM
  #20
Weanling
I agree with Foxhunter.

I wouldn't call it abuse going by what I can see, but I don't agree with the training they have chosen to do with him at his age, just my opinion.
     

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