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post #1 of 37 Old 06-13-2010, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
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Some people should NOT be allowed to own ANIMALS.

Good. Freaking. GRIEF.

So, I got to very brutally witness today what happens when you mix a dog that doesn't listen with a horse that's terrified of dogs. I love animals, so it was just heart breaking to watch, but I cannot even BELIEVE what ensued.

Basically, I was sitting on a massive cross country jump and letting Zierra graze. Ashley was cantering her pony around in the field. This group if idiot TEENAGERS (no offense, but need I say more?) waltz out to set up a picnic at one of the tables in the field. I glance up when I hear this guy shouting "MIKEY! MIKEY! MIKEY NO!" and see "Mikey" flying across the field at Justus. I have no idea why, but pony is PETRIFIED of dogs. The dog catches up, and starts growling - Justus bolts HARD. Ashley almost falls off, and I'm calling out "Just circle her, circle her". She somehow manages to get Justus stopped, and the dog is now underneath her. The guy goes to grab the dog and then it happens - the little mutt bites Justus on her front pastern. Game over - pony took one jump forward, and proceeded to SMASH both her hind legs against the dog repeatedly. It was just this god awful sound of yelping and crunching flesh.

Justus gets him good about three times - this wasn't a kick, this was a horse going back to it's most primitive state and aiming to kill. Then she leaps forward and stands shaking (still listening to Ashley like the amazing little pony she is). The dog manages to drag itself under a picnic table yelping as the whole group is screaming and crying and repeating "I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN!" Like, freaking DUH you god**** MORONS!? WHY DID YOU LET HIM LOOSE?

Ashley rides over and joins me at the jump - she's almost in tears. We stand around for a bit and we can hear them talking about Mikey's broken leg(s?). After a bit, the kid who chased him comes walking over. Ashley is freaking out now (she's only 15) and I told her to just hang back, I'd handle it.

This kid actually had the NERVE to waltz up and ask our names. I said "Niki & Ashley" and he goes "Last names?" I proceed to go "Why?" and he launches off with "Because my dog's leg is broken and I am NOT paying for it." To which I retorted "Oh really? Maybe you should actually train your animal before letting it off leash then huh?"

We basically got into a 5 minute battle royale SCREAMING match. I have a wicked temper and I went up one side of this kid and down the other. He's screaming at me about how can a horse that size possibly be scared of a little dog, and how dare we not train our vicious horses better, and he did NOT bite her, he only grabbed her tail! Like, are you SERIOUS? He actually says to me "Why the hell didn't she just run away, he couldn't have caught her!" and I ended the conversation by screaming (and I quote):

"She is FOURTEEN YEARS OLD and her pony is already scared because of F***ING IDIOT OWNERS like you who couldn't F***ING be bothered to train their F***ING animals!"

Upon which he goes "Want me to go get park patrol?" and I went "PLEASE DO, I WILL WAIT HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO THEM, PLKTHXBAI YOU DINK." He stormed off and we waited for half an hour for park patrol to show up - I guarantee if they found park patrol they got laughed at.

So that was our exciting day. Like, who ARE these people? What in god's name happened in this world where you can get off trying to threaten someone because YOU didn't bother to train your animal before letting it loose? Would he have paid the vet bill if Justus needed stitches after the dog bit her? (She's fine by the way). I highly doubt it! I feel terrible the dog got hurt, I wish Justus would have kicked HIM instead when he went to grab it! To say NOTHING of the issues we're going to have to overcome with Justus' already incredible fear of dogs!


End rant. I had to talk to some horse people. I just cannot BELIEVE people these days.

I hope God tells her to smash her computer with a sledgehammer.

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post #2 of 37 Old 06-13-2010, 08:39 PM
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WOW, I am glad that Ashley and her horse are ok. All of that could have been avoided if the dog was kept on the leash under control.

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post #3 of 37 Old 06-13-2010, 08:40 PM
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I'm sure they got told that their dog should have been on a leash in a public park. One of the many reasons why we have trained our old girls to chase anything that comes at them. Ours would love nothing more than stomping a little dog, an armadillo or any other critter when we are riding away from home. Wish we could have been there with Vida and Fras to chase the little bugger and the owner back to town
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post #4 of 37 Old 06-13-2010, 08:58 PM
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How insane! So many things I want to say right now, many of them not very appropiate. Wow.
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post #5 of 37 Old 06-13-2010, 08:59 PM
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Wow, that's scary. I think I would've been pretty much incoherent with rage screaming at that idiot. Aw man, I am seething just sitting here reading it. As much as I want to say the dog deserved it, really it was that jacka*s' fault for not training it. The one good thing is that providing the dog survives it's not gonna go after a horse again-well, likely it'll survive-is it only its leg that's broken? That really sucks that you're set even farther back in your "dog desensitization" with the pony though! Man, I hate that kid already and I don't even know who he is.
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Yep. I have two herding dogs, and their drive is pretty big, and I don't bring them around the barn for this EXACT REASON. I like my dogs too much to see them kicked or worse because they see a moving animal and need to go after it. Our barn dogs are two silly Dane puppies who are intimidated by the horses, and a mutt who pretty much leaves the horses alone, no threat at all.
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post #7 of 37 Old 06-13-2010, 09:00 PM Thread Starter
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Pretty much. It must be a city mentality, where they're dog probably doesn't chase or attack other dogs so they were stupid enough to believe a horse would be the same and found it pretty fast what happens.

I can understand emotions running high, I just couldn't imagine for even a SECOND trying to threaten a horseback rider if my dog attacked her horse. I would be tripping over myself apologizing, regardless of how many injuries my dog sustained. I would be humiliated if my dog even put someone in danger like that!

I hope God tells her to smash her computer with a sledgehammer.

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post #8 of 37 Old 06-13-2010, 09:04 PM Thread Starter
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ilyTango - I know, I feel SO awful the dog got hurt, I wish Justus would have stepped on him or something, give HIM the pain to learn his lesson. I honestly don't know what's all broken - it was awful, she had all her weight slamming onto him, and he was just screaming on the ground as she kept pulvarizing him. I've seen horse attacks before, and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have some internal damage. He had no chance to get out of the way, he was just smashed into the dirt and lay there.

justsambam - Shay-la has a border collie and we can't bring her to the ranch for that EXACT reason. She's already been kicked in the head so hard she had a seizure by her moms horse, and she still hasn't learned. She's constantly ducking under the fence and nipping at heels, the only difference is our horses know her. That could very well be exactly why Justus is so afraid of dogs though - the older mares would just trot off or kick at her, maybe she just got Justus one too many times.

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Its threads like these that make me think all horse people should just move to our own island..

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post #10 of 37 Old 06-13-2010, 09:18 PM
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Border collies seem to be really bad with chasing stuff-well, their instincts are to herd stuff, so you can hardly blame them. Our BC used to chase our horses when we first got them. Then one night she was running after them and one of the 16H Percheron mares football booted her-yes, she literally went flying through the air-across the field and she hasn't looked at a horse the wrong way since. She's learned a lot of things the hard way, but she surely does learn after that one good wallop. I hope that dog's the same way-though I can't say the owner will be any smarter for his troubles.
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