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    02-11-2013, 06:45 PM
  #1
Yearling
Question Someone else's mouthy horse?

Eh, I figured I might as well ask, since I'm not really 100 percent sure how to handle it.

Across from my two ponies, there is a large paint gelding. He is very "mouthy". My BO actually got PICKED UP by him a couple weeks ago. He was in his stall and she was talking to me with her back to him, he grabbed her coat and...lifted.

Anyway, the BO's horse, Maya is right next door to the gelding. I like Maya, she was kind to my 2 year old filly when she was boarded there, and so I like to give Maya treats here and there (The BO knows and approves). Now, I get the gelding sniffing when I give Maya treats. He puts his face over, and Maya puts him in his place. However he can and will sniff me and mouth my clothing if I get close enough.

This is also a problem in close quarters when I'm leading my shetland out. The hallway is fairly close in between the stalls. He mouths at my clothing, or my head if I accidentally get too close, and I DO NOT want to be bitten or do any air acrobatics like the BO.

So what do you do? I have tried yelling "NO!" When he gets too close...he looks looks away and moves slightly back, but is not deterred for long. I have also stomped my feet, etc. He seems oblivious. The BO suggests strongly that this horse has zero respect on the ground.

How can I avoid being his inadvertent chew toy? Any way to get him to believe that THIS HUMAN at least is off limits? He is not my horse, so I would not feel comfortable smacking him. None of my horses has prepared me for this either X_X
     
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    02-11-2013, 06:55 PM
  #2
Showing
Do you know the person that owns him? I think I would want to talk to them and let them know that they are really risking a lot of trouble by having a horse that will just nibble and bite anyone who happens to be close. Perhaps suggest that they put up some sort of grill on the front/sides of that horse's stall so that he can't reach out and "touch" people.
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    02-11-2013, 07:11 PM
  #3
Weanling
I agree, talk to the owner. In the meantime I would STOMP in him direction, as well as yell NO.
     
    02-11-2013, 07:40 PM
  #4
Yearling
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Originally Posted by smrobs    
Do you know the person that owns him? I think I would want to talk to them and let them know that they are really risking a lot of trouble by having a horse that will just nibble and bite anyone who happens to be close. Perhaps suggest that they put up some sort of grill on the front/sides of that horse's stall so that he can't reach out and "touch" people.
I have never met his owner. =( I think it is a friend of the BO.

I *think* there is a top door to his stall, though I am not sure if it closes. I can try that. I feel a bit apprehensive about closing someone else's horse in, but I don't particularly want to get hurt. I guess I should put my big girl panties on....

I tried stomping and yelling "No!" he just looks away for a second. I even tried blowing at his face...hell it works to piss my cats off...but he ignores that too. Stupid horse xD Maybe I should just get a covert squirt gun....
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    02-11-2013, 09:47 PM
  #5
Yearling
I'd bring a whip with me and wave it. Keep it in a passive position until he gets to close. You don't have to hit him with it. If you're paying attention and you see him reaching for you, wave the whip back and forth infront of you (very close to your form) like a windshield wiper. Very fast. He won't like it and he'll back off. It creates a physical barrier he understands. The whip won't come out to "get" him, but it puts a wall up between you and him and if he pokes his nose into the windshield wiper, he'll get popped.

When I rode english and wore halfchaps, I'd smack the whip down against my halfchap to back a horse off. They'd see the whip fly and hear the crack when it hit my leg...not like that idea and just back off. I did it without the halfchap out of habit and man that stings!

I think I came across one horse (stud) that didn't respect the visible wall. He reached his nose into it and got a pop and didn't try it again.
     
    02-11-2013, 10:29 PM
  #6
Yearling
Ill look to see if I can find my loud whip. If it was my BO's colt, I'd be perfectly ok with him bumping his nose on my whip, but seeing as how I do not know these people, I am hesitant. Some people are really, really particular about their pets!

Though technically, if he runs into my whip, I guess it's his bad. LOL.

Anyway it's been made more obvious to me why people are so unhappy about spoiled horses with no ground manners. They are obnoxious and/or dangerous to the rest of us, and it puts us non-owners in a crappy position. It makes me think twice about how I react with my own horses, as I don't want to be the girl with THAT horse.
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    02-11-2013, 10:33 PM
  #7
Green Broke
With horse in stall not much to do except close top door if can. You need to have a talk with BO though.

That said? I would not be blowing in face, as that is encouraging this.

And if you know he does this? Then it is your place to not put yourself where it can happen.

As to walking by? Let him run into point of your elbow, or keep stiff brush, bristles out, in your hand, and when he moves head towards you, slowly raise the brush and let him run mouth into the bristles.

Do NOT talk, laugh, look at him or in any way shape or form indicate that you know this has happened. Totally ignore him and walk on by.

But biggest thing, is to not let him do it by staying clear, or protecting yourself.
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    02-11-2013, 10:40 PM
  #8
Yearling
I would not even feel remotely bad for letting him bite a mouthful of stiff brush. In fact, I wouldn't even feel remotely remorseful if the owner was mad at me for letting him bite a stiff brush. THAT could work.

As for staying away...he's in a really ****ty place, right across from my mare's stall, and within reach of me if I put her in cross ties. I tend to zone out with her, so a lot of the time, my husband is calling out "move", or "watch your hair" when he sees me doing this and Mr. Potato head is trying to catch a nibble. I've been stomping and yelling, but since all that does is upset my mare, I will definitely have to find an appropriately offensive brush.

Thanks everyone for the input! =)
     
    02-12-2013, 02:35 AM
  #9
Started
Next time you walk past be ready and as he reaches out to nibble give him a tap on the nose and a harsh no. If he persists increase how hard you tap his nose. He should get the message.

My horse Savannah went to bite me in frustration for not having a treat. I learnt not to hand feed treats but put them in a bucket then allow the horse to have them. Back to biting, as she lunged out I gave her a bunch of fives right on the nose hard enough for her to jerk back and look at me.

She took a couple of days to bring her head down again but she never tried to bite again. I just treated her the same as the herd would.

Don't read this wrong, I do not hit horses on the face or any where else for that matter and have been known to tell anyone off who raises a hand to my horse but there are times when herd mentality has to be brought into the mix.

Savannah also tried to kick me with both back legs. As luck would have it she missed, I did not. I had a stick in my hand at the time and as she missed I lashed out hitting her on the hind legs. She got the message and never tried me again. Its a respect thing, if she had of got away with the kick I would have been forever in danger, instead I had a horse that was gentle with me. Savannah is the horse at the bottom of the page
     
    02-12-2013, 04:26 AM
  #10
Trained
Pokey finger works really good, give a sharp poke with your finger in the fleshy part of his face, right above his mouth and below his jaw as soon as he sniffs you or brings his face close.
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